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AIBU to ask why you don't wash your hands?

345 replies

sadiekate · 04/06/2018 04:25

People who don't wash their hands after they go to the toilet.
People who don't wash their hands before preparing/eating food.
People who don't wash their hands after changing nappies.
People who don't wash their hands after putting the bins out.
People who don't wash their hands after handling raw meat.
We all know we are supposed to do these things. And yet lots of people don't. If you don't, why? I promise I'm not intending to criticise anyone, I am just genuinely curious to know, given the risks not washing hands entails, why it isn't a habit for so many.

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LuxuryTime · 04/06/2018 12:35

I’m in the same camp as Speakout
Whenever I introduce microbiology to a new class I like to have them grow agar plates to show them just what a variety of microbes are around us.

I invite them to swab all kinds of places in the room; door handles, keyboards, gas taps, blackboard pens, their seats, in the sinks... it can be a very enlightening experience Grin

The point though is to make them realise that microbes are everywhere and unavoidable to an extent. We only need to worry about the pathogens Wink

Ninchninch · 04/06/2018 12:35

@Pinkyblinder

Forgot to answer your question.

Don't have worms. I have never had them.

Why would I have worms? Because I grow my own fruit and veg instead of buying Tesco's fruit and veg?

Sametimesameplace · 04/06/2018 12:36

I don’t have any particular anxiety about germs but I do wash my hand regularly and always after using the toilet. It’s basic hygiene. Why would you not?

It’s not about touching skin or my own urine but other people’s unwashed hands after defecating.

You also can’t compare it to intimate relationships which presumably you would not be indulging in with an unwashed stranger.

JacquesHammer · 04/06/2018 12:49

Why would you not?

Because - especially in Winter - I get terrible eczema on my hands. NOT washing them when I go for a wee at home (where I am probably 90% of the time) means I can just about keep them from breaking out so I can wash my hands when I do need to!

diodati · 04/06/2018 13:04

DS only washes his hands when reminded. He has brought many, many viruses home that way over the years, causing uncountable absences from school and work to us all. He always sickens first and then the rest of us fall ill. It's exasperating.

BarryTheKestrel · 04/06/2018 13:07

@Duchyduke I have my own soap at work, but I'm never usually out of the house for more than a few hours, I wash my hands before I leave and as soon as I get home, so I don't feel the need to carry soap around with me. I react to most hard soaps so to carry a liquid soap around with me usually ends in a leakage either in my bag or in the plastic bag it's being housed in to stop leaks in my bag. With children and all associated paraphernalia to cart around, extra soap is just not a priority when I can get my hands to an acceptable standard of clean as I do already.

Semster · 04/06/2018 13:23

I used a local public toilet here this morning after a walk and it made me think of this thread and smile. It was a typical Maine public toilet - basically a privy with no running water. I wondered how MNers would cope.

WalkingOnAFlashlightBeam · 04/06/2018 13:39

i wondered how MNers would cope.

Don’t tar all of MN with the same brush! It’s been great to see some calmer voices of reason on this thread for once.

JacquesHammer · 04/06/2018 13:40

I wondered how MNers would cope

Squat carefully and go about my day. Grin

Jimdandy · 04/06/2018 13:46

@furrydice

“Bin juice” I’m laughing so much!!! I will be stealing this!

Fluffyears · 04/06/2018 13:54

This again? Do you wash your hands properly? If you just rinse under water you are as well not bothering, hot water and soap and ebsyrebyou remember your thumbs and webbing between fingers and your nails. Don’t get me started on people who take off rings to wash hands, that ring has been where your hand has and is just a ‘germy’ As the rest of your hand!

MikeUniformMike · 04/06/2018 13:58

Not RTFT. Hand sanitizers are not healthy and they kill germs but don't clean.

SurfnTerfFantasticmissfoxy · 04/06/2018 14:39

It's a tricky one - I grew up on a farm and with horses and very much tend to wash my hands when I think I need to - for example

Pulling weeds with bare hands and covered in soil, about to make a sandwich - wash hands

Gone to the loo in my own home for a wee, not touched any body part or bodily fluid (the toilet paper touches, not me) and about to go and walk the dog - wouldn't bother washing hands

Always wash hands before preparing food.

Elphabaisnotwicked · 04/06/2018 14:42

I’m not defending my friend who doesn’t use soap, I think it’s vile! When at her house I’ll use the body wash from her shower! Maybe I’m easily shocked but I can’t get my head around the idea of not washing your hands after using the toilet, before preparing or eating food, coming home after being out, bins out etc. It really is basic hygeine.

Montsti · 04/06/2018 14:46

Tbh I didn’t used to wash my hands with soap much and I was outwardly very clean and I travelled on public transport (tube & bus) at least 5 days a week and I bit my nails😳🤢. Tbf I’ve very very rarely caught stomach bugs or colds/coughs...but now I have kids, I always wash my hands with soap or use waterless hand sanitizer...I’m pretty obsessed now!

Montsti · 04/06/2018 14:47

I always showered with shower gel though every day! Just didn’t wash my hands with soap much during the day!

sadiekate · 04/06/2018 15:36

Thank you to all who have commented so far! I didn't expect more than half a dozen people to respond!
@tinkobell Well, I guess I wouldn't start a thread like this if I wasn't interested in cleanliness, would I? But actually no, I don't annoy everyone around me, though I might do if I started telling total strangers how annoying they must be.
Would tend to agree with the poster who said that if your hands are generally kept clean, you don't need to wash them before eating.
And yes, @Tinkobell, of course I would wash my hands in between playing with the dog and eating.

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MikeUniformMike · 04/06/2018 15:48

Not washing your hands after going to the loo is disgusting. Even if you didn't touch anything other than paper and the loo handle.
www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-body/best-way-to-wash-your-hands/
Are you that lazy?

Sod off Daily Liar.

sadiekate · 04/06/2018 16:05

To the posters saying this is about judging other people: it really isn't. I promised at the start of the thread that I wouldn't judge anyone and I haven't! It's really just something I'm curious about, in the same way as I always wonder why some people don't lock their front doors.
And, at the risk of absolutely shocking everyone: I actually agree that you don't need to wash your hands if you're doing a wee at home, unless you're going to eat.

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RoseWhiteTips · 04/06/2018 16:06

Hint:

If you want to avoid being denigrated, just wash your hands.

Thepaisleymonstrosity · 04/06/2018 16:07

Some people seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about bacteria and viruses.

They think that things like soil, mud, animal skin dander etc from working with animals (especially horses or rabbits or pastoral animals when the only food they eat is grass or hay,) is the “dirt” you eat which makes you ill or eventually immune to “bacteria.” This just isn’t true. Of course you’ve very rarely been ill from mucking out a stable or digging in the soil or your child has a hefty constitution from eating half a worm. Rarely, can you pick up a bacterial infection from something like that - you would literally have to lick the horse shit off your fingers, and i’m guessing that most of the people who believe that would not do that if their hands were visibly soiled.

The places which make you ill are door nobs, taps, remote controls, light switches, bannisters, phone screens, people who are ill preparing food for you, shared toys in public places, care environments like hospitals, nursing homes and nurseries, public toilets with no washing facilities, going into someone’s home who has been ill. And not washing hands after all of the above.

These places occasionally make you ill with viruses like colds, flu and stomach bugs, if you don’t wash your hands.

While we can become immune to some viruses, there are so many different strains of the common cold and flu, it’s a lottery whether you’ve just caught the one you’ve previously had and are therefore immune.

90% of gastroenteritis is norovirus. You cannot become immune to norovirus. The immunity period is 14 weeks. If you catch it in 2017 you can still get it in 2018. There are some people who never get norovirus or are asymptomatic carriers, and they are the 20% of the population who are “non secretors.”

Norovirus or flu can kil someone with a compromised immune system.

That’s why to avoid getting ill or making vulnerable people ill, others should simply wash their hands.

sadiekate · 04/06/2018 16:12

And to the poster who criticised the cleanliness of people in middle eastern countries: you are just wrong. They wash themselves after going to the loo which actually makes them cleaner than westerners.

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Lethaldrizzle · 04/06/2018 16:13

How do germphobes procreate

JacquesHammer · 04/06/2018 16:17

Are you that lazy

No, but I'd be foolish to not follow the advice of a dermatologist just to ensure some faceless posters on MN didn't clutch their pearls just a little Wink

ALongHardWinter · 04/06/2018 16:23

Watching this thread with interest. I know a couple of people who are very anti-hand washing and I've often wondered why. It only takes a minute or two,but they act as if it's a massive waste of time. Incidentally,one of them seems to pick up every bug going around and I've said to him on occasion why doesn't he try washing his hands now and again? I've read that washing your hands is one of the best ways of protecting yourself against cold and vomiting viruses. For the record,I'm very vigilant about hand washing and I can honestly say that I rarely catch colds or any sort of sickness bug,so people who say a few germs build up your resistance aren't always right. I'm not obsessive about germs in the house,i.e. I'm not going round with the bleach and antibacterial spray every day. I like to think I strike a happy balance,in that I always wash my hands after touching things like bins,raw meat,the cat litter tray,before eating and after using the toilet,but I don't get upset if I'm out and about and have to eat a sandwich without being able to wash my hands first.