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How to help DSIS

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ShawnaHawkins · 31/05/2018 15:54

I'm really worried about my DSIS and at a loss about how to help her.

DSIS is 29 and has never had a job. She lives with our parents and is very much the baby of the family. She's been making half-hearted efforts with job hunting and has done some internships and temping, but there is always a drama or a problem.

She had some problems at school during GCSEs and failed the first time around, she then went to a college that specialised in retakes and got 8 GCSEs and 3 A-levels at A-C. She went on to university and graduated with a BA in summer 2012. I think that the GCSES knocked her confidence as did being 2 years behind some other people on her courses and that this had a knock-on effect.

After graduating, she made a token effort to job hunt but always seemed to be self-sabotaging (e.g. turned up to interviews in jeans and trainers and afterwards was in floods of tears over the interviewer being critical of her) or said she couldn't find the address so didn't go and ignored calls from whatever agency had recommended her.

My family and I have called in lots of favours for her and put her forward for internships and temp/perm work. Literally every time, except once, she has complained that people are mean or rude to her or that there is some form of bullying. I’m torn between thinking she has the worst luck out of anyone, that she is deliberately sabotaging it because she can't be bothered, and that she has undiagnosed MH issues that are causing problems with the work.

She worked at my cousin’s company for a short while (but in a different department) my cousin said that DSIS was frequently emailing or messaging her for advice on how to handle tasks at work, and would often try to pressure my cousin into doing some of her tasks by (in my cousin’s words) “laying on a guilt trip”.
My uncle has arranged work for her on at least 3 occasions and she has pulled out at the last minute every time leaving him short staffed. He eventually said that he wouldn’t be able to help her anymore because it was making him look bad.
She had some seasonal temp work with my employer when I happened to be on honeymoon. She messaged me every day about how horrible her supervisors were being to her and asking me to interpret things they said (I get that conversations sound different over text but she was relaying things like "he told me to do something straight away because it was urgent but he said it in a way that sounded like he thinks I'm stupid and that I'm wasting his time" or "she gave me a client file but she dropped it on the edge of my desk instead of passing it to me nicely"). Anything I said wasn’t good enough and she would always end up with saying things like “I suppose you want to be off having fun and not having me bringing you down”. When her contract ended, her supervisor discretely asked me if everything was ok as she was frequently very late to work and had a lot of absences, especially after “she was asked to do something she obviously didn’t like to do”.
I tried really hard to support her during her employment and after leaving, I felt really guilty as I had introduced her to lots of my contacts and that I was responsible for the horrible experience that she had there. I helped her with her CV and spent hours every day scouring job adverts and helping her with cover letters etc. I even went through a stage of rehearsing the journey to interviews with her but I stopped doing that because I realised that I was making the situation worse.
Since leaving that job in 2015, she's had a couple of temporary placements but has left each one because she has said that the people in the team are bullying her or excluding her. She's been to countless interviews and always comes home with a story about how the interviewer was rude or mean to her and that it undermines her confidence and knocks her back. Recently these stories have escalated to include people on the tube or the bus looking at her in an odd way or people in shops being rude to her.

I've suggested, in numerous ways, that she goes to her GP for a general chat about how she is feeling. I've told her about the counselling I've been to and how helpful it has been to me, and suggested she could try it. I've looked up schemes that help people back into work or that hold skills workshops. She always dismisses these things (well, she usually blanks me for a few days and then gets my mum to pass a message that she isn’t interested). I’m so worried about her and I don’t know what I can do to help her :(

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MyKingdomForBrie · 31/05/2018 15:58

You can’t do anything. She’s obviously a perfectly capable human being as she is qualified to degree level. She doesn’t want to be helped as she doesn’t want a job. I think you need to take a big step back as you’re just causing yourself frustration and anxiety.

Singlenotsingle · 31/05/2018 16:03

She just doesn't want a job. Hopefully she can claim JSA or whatever it's called these days? Long term, her future looks bleak

bakingdemon · 31/05/2018 16:05

You've clearly bent over backwards to help her and even endangered your own position at work to get her some work. You can't do anything more. It has to come from her. And if she gets sanctioned by the job centre for not taking up offers of work, so be it. Maybe some harsh love is what she needs to realise she needs to pull her socks up.

ShawnaHawkins · 31/05/2018 16:08

She's claiming JSA but I'm very concerned about her future.
She still lives with our parents and seems to have no interests outside the home apart from meeting up with friends for a meal or a coffee a few times a year. Honestly, see seems so unhappy that it breaks my heart.
I would find it easier if she was enjoying herself and didn't care about ever having a job. Instead I get the feeling that she's stuck and doesn't know how to get herself out of her rut.

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Snausage · 31/05/2018 16:12

She's not going to change while your parents enable her. It's sad, but until she's in a position where she has to make a change, I don't think there's anything you can do!

FesteringCarbuncle · 31/05/2018 16:17

You can only help someone who wants to be helped
You've done all you can

MatildaTheCat · 31/05/2018 16:24

Maybe it’s your parents who need your help? It must be absolutely draining to live with this.

Not much you can do. Has she exploded volunteering at all? Maybe even she could manage a few hours a week?

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 31/05/2018 16:28

The only way you can help her is to stop helping her. She has no need to stand on her own two feet because your family are propping her up.
Stop calling in favours, let her sort herself out, the only one who can help her is herself.

ShawnaHawkins · 31/05/2018 16:41

She tried volunteering a few years ago (before the placement with my cousin) and certainly seems to be open to it. My mum often talks about DSIS applying for volunteer roles so I'm not sure why she hasn't got one.

My dad is part of the problem to be honest. He's 72 now. He was made redundant in his early 40s and didn't get another job. Apart from the odd ad hoc decorating job over the years. He's also full of excuses about why he can't work, playing up health problems etc.

My mum has always worked and says she has no intention of retiring because she doesn't want to be at home all day with my dad!

I have tried so hard to help my mum - financially and with emotional support. I have a really rocky relationship with my dad, he was utterly vile to me throughout my childhood and threw me out when I had just turned 18. Although my mum talked him into letting me come back for uni holidays, our relationship has never recovered. I've tried so many times over the years to build on my relationship with my mum but she is incapable of leaving my dad out of the equation and for my own sanity, I have to distance myself from him.

Now that I've typed this all out, I'm starting to see that my sister is doing exactly the same as my dad.

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ShawnaHawkins · 31/05/2018 16:45

I do really appreciate all your responses. I know I'm coming across as a wet lettuce about this and I do know I need to toughen up when it comes to my DSIS.
I swing between thinking "FFS, it can't be that hard to get a job" to total guilt meltdown that she's struggling and I'm just slagging her off (in my own head/ to DH)

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