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To ask how you explain no contact?

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User467 · 30/05/2018 00:46

Decided to post on here as get the impression from a few threads that a fair few people on here are in a similar position to us.

Basically my MIL has narcissistic personality disorder and without going into all the details about six years ago my DH and SIL decided to go no contact. She is an incredibly toxic, manipulative person who brought them both (and myself) a lot of pain so we are confident that this is the right decision.

My worry is how we explain this to our kids. Our eldest knew them until he was just over a year so really has no memory of them, and our youngest has never met them. I always thought I would just find a way to explain it when they asked about them but they have never asked. My DS is now nearly 8 and I feel like omission is starting to turn into lying and that we need to tell them. I just don't know what to say. Despite all the pain, I am reluctant to paint them in a dreadful light. I believe kids should be protected from as much of the adult politics as possible without being put in the middle. I also don't know if the NC will be forever, it certainly seems that it will be but you never know. It seems my DH family so that decision would really be his. I don't want to play her games by slating her but at the same time feel my kids need a litttle awareness of what she is like in the event they decide to make contact themselves (although this is obviously some time off as they are still young). I can't just say that we just don't see them as the kids won't buy that for any length of time.

So I guess I'm looking for advice on what others have said. Have you had to explain NC with a close family member to your kids or have you been a child and had it explained to you? Anyone had it dealt with in a way that they felt wasn't right? I'm probably over thinking it but I find the whole thing very sad and hate that we've had to make this decision for our kids and want to try and deal with it as well as possible.

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Butterflykissess · 30/05/2018 00:49

Following this as I had to go N C with my mum and brother. Haven't really explained it to my children yet but I haven't spoken to them in just over a year.

MyShinyWhiteTeeth · 30/05/2018 00:53

You can talk about people doing mean or unkind things. You can talk about friends falling out or mums and dads not being friends anymore and not wanting to talk to each other. How it's best to be apart so you don't shout at each other when you are together.

How sometimes people argue and won't admit they've done wrong.

Deshasafraisy · 30/05/2018 00:59

Be as honest as possible as the truth comes out eventually

CoughLaughFart · 30/05/2018 01:02

Wait until they ask.

Boulshired · 30/05/2018 01:09

When my DCs asked about my brother I told them that sometimes the best relationship you can have with someone is no relationship at all. I tried not to apportion blame but that this was the best for me and I would not be doing it if it wasn't necessary. Mostly I am glad to leave the drama behind so kept it brief.

Homemadearmy · 30/05/2018 01:16

My ex dps mother and his siblings went nc with me when we split up. our children where 6, 4, ,3 2 and a newborn. Initially when the children asked to see her I would say she was busy and that seemed to placate them. Gradually they forgot about her and what occasionally ask why they didn’t see her anymore and I would just say I didn’t know and distract them. 10 years on they never mention her. My youngest sometimes asked why they don’t have another set of grandparents and I just till him that everyone has different amount of families.

Birdsgottafly · 30/05/2018 01:16

What you have to guard against is the toxic relative deliberately getting in touch during the Teen years, which SM has made easy to do.

Teens can be easily manipulated and their Teen tantrums/angst, played upon.

An age appropriate level of truth is needed.

justilou1 · 30/05/2018 02:07

If they ask, tell them an age-appropriate version of the truth. Granny has mental health issues and doesn’t always tell the truth. It is very hard for kids to be safe around grownups who don’t always know when they are telling the truth or not.

NicEv · 30/05/2018 02:14

This is worth reading

consciouslyparenting.com/when-families-are-estranged/

Narkle · 30/05/2018 06:24

I allowed contact despite being NC/ VLC myself. The GP would write letters, emails and videochat in my presence.

Eventually a few things became clear to my eldest: They'd never ask any questions about my DC's lives, ignored the presence of my youngest, continually claimed to be too old to travel to see them (in an effort to get the DC to stay with them alone) while simoultaneously flying on holiday to Australia and both my older DC were left feeling negative after every conversation.

Now my children have lost all interest themselves and the oldest (a teen) has gone NC himself, while my middle one half-heartedly cobbles together the odd short letter and my youngest is blissfully unaware of their existence.

toomuchtooold · 30/05/2018 06:46

I would agree with the PPs who said about focusing on past behaviours, and explain that MIL has a mental illness and that it makes her behave in ways that can be hurtful to others. I can understand that you don't want to fill your DS's head full of poison about them, but you do have to warn him in case he or they try to make contact in the future - you'd warn him away from other people or things that were dangerous to him, it's not a malicious thing to do, even if your MIL would do it maliciously IYSWIM.
My kids are 6, and I've told them that their grandma is mentally ill and that it makes her start fights and be nasty with family and friends. They have very vague memories of her now and don't tend to ask much about her. When we first went NC they did ask about her coming back but it was in the sense of "I hope she doesn't come back" so it's been quite easy that way.

FlyingElbows · 30/05/2018 06:47

My eldest was about the same age when I went nc with my mother. It was one of the most painful conversations I have ever had to have. But it had to be done. The others were too little. Middle child has a very vague recollection and the youngest has no idea who she is. The younger ones think my paternal grandmother was my mother, through their own logic not anything I've said, but I correct them. The topic of my mother does come up every now and again (and I suspect they may talk about it among themselves) but I'm a total chicken and I just skirt round it. It's too much to have to tell them that my own mother thinks I'm pretty much worthless. I don't want to plant that seed.

RabbitsAreTasty · 30/05/2018 06:52

I tell mine that grandma has mental health problems, which mean she makes bad decisions, lies and hurts people, she won't admit that anything is wrong with her and she won't get help so very sadly we have to stay away from her.

Only when asked or there is a possibilty of them meeting.

User467 · 30/05/2018 09:48

Thanks all. Lots of good suggestions. I'll keep it quite simple but I think I probably do need to be a little honest as they definitely do need a bit of "protection" from her incase they ever do meet. I'm not sure when I'll talk about it, but I just don't want them to be sitting at 11 and then suddenly realise there's a section of their family we have kept hidden from them. We are still in contact with all the rest of my DHs family (they have all gone NC with MIL too) so that does make it easier in a way.

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User467 · 30/05/2018 09:53

Toomuchtooold - I like your explanation of it not being malicious to warn them even though she would be doing it maliciously. Part of my worry about saying anything negative has been that that is what she would do and I refuse to be like her. But it's reassuring to know that it's not the same

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User467 · 30/05/2018 09:56

Thanks for the link Nicev

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