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Bailiffs help please

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namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 11:30

Posting for traffic.

Can bailiffs take work tools and van that they have clamped outside the property? Van worth nothing, tools are "chippy" tools he needs for work. Citizens advice website says they can't take anything work tools wise under the value of £1500 but bailiff saying that is incorrect information on their website.

He also has mental health which they don't believe and are saying they will sit outside until he prove it. He can prove it but on via his gp which obviously can't be done in an hour.

Please advice would be great.

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namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 18:29

I have to cook dinner now but I will look at that fb Page this evening. Smile

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namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 18:35

It's a very long story which I don't really want to put on here but her family have been very sneaky and it's only now my dp's parents confronted her parents that they have agreed they owe him some money (there's an awful lot of what's/when's/why's and buts.) Hence a meeting to agree a sum and her family will have it drawn up with a solicitor to confirm it and a clean break order can be issued etc. It's so complicated with a massive backstory not for Mumsnet. But it will be sorted out once and for all.

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MarsBarsAreShrinking · 29/05/2018 18:44

charlestonchaplin it's not something they generally advertise but their own guidelines state it. They don't want your "stuff"; they want neither the hassle of removing it or the bother of having to auction it. They want cash. Yours, your family's, your friend's. They don't care where from. They prey on people's fears that they'll be left in an empty shell of a house, sitting on the floor. It's all bollocks. Unless you own a top of the line Range Rover (outright own it I mean, they can't take vehicles that are on finance) or 10 brand new Macbooks they do NOT want your belongings; it's more trouble than it's worth to them.

Watch any episode of "can't pay etc" carefully and you will see that they NEVER take goods unless they will definitely cover the whole amount of the debt.

Blizzardagain · 29/05/2018 18:45

Can't he get his pay paid into a different account?

siwel123 · 29/05/2018 18:55

the writ states they've to collect payment.
What should they do, take his word for it and wait a few weeks for the money to come? Don't be daft.
If he had let them in, spoke to them properly and worked out a plan then it could be a different story.

ReanimatedSGB · 29/05/2018 18:57

Not impressed by all this 'just doing their job.' A lot of bailiffs are petty bullies who absolutely cream their pants when they can make someone cry. Many of them are liars who rely on all sorts of bullshit to scare people into paying.
Its not the sort of job that appeals to sympathetic types, is it?

HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 29/05/2018 19:00

If it’s a high court order, they don’t need to give 7 days notice, there more than likely won’t take the tools and are using pressure tactics, (common)

You need to contact a debt agency like step change or something, does he have any CCJ?

sweeneytoddsrazor · 29/05/2018 19:02

I appreciate you don't want to put all the details on here OP but that does not sound like a clear cut court agreed settlement at all and it doesn't even sound like it's guaranteed let alone an amount. I would be very wary of relying on it if I were your DP

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:09

Siwel they wouldn't have been taking his word for it he could get it in writing

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charlestonchaplin · 29/05/2018 19:12

You're wrong MarsBars. Those tv programmes show they do take things when they won't cover the full amount of the debt. It's usually something like a car (quite modest cars often) or a quad bike, something that will give them a sizeable chunk of money, when that is the only option open to them.

I know full well they don't want things, especially household stuff, but I have certainly seen them packing up relatively minor items to force people to pay, and it usually works. That doesn't mean they can't take these items. They may try to avoid doing so, but I don't think you should advise the OP that they definitely won't. If they believe that is the only way they are going to get any significant amount of money, they might very well do so.

HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 29/05/2018 19:14

Irregardless also how the debt has accrued, he needs it paying a court have looked at all the eveidence and found that your partner is responsible for the debt, also no offence anybody can claim they have MH issues, however you have to prove it to be able to get further help.

It sounds as if your dh has buried his head in the sand and the claimant had went to the high court, which for advise they don’t need your dh permission to enter the property!

Why if he is going to work and looking after his dc and being able to manage every day activities is he not trying to get this resolved, and get suitable debt management advice.

No point making excuses, the court has looked at the eveidence and found your dh is responsible for the debt, he need to get professional debt management advice!

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:15

Rean yes you are right and I didn't let them bully or intimidate me because I didn't live with an arrogant, argumentative, asshole bully of a man that was my ex husband for 18 years to be bullied by a couple of bullshitting bailiffs using the same tactics.

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HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 29/05/2018 19:15

*excuse the typos on my mobile

siwel123 · 29/05/2018 19:18

Again he has it in writing woopy dooh.
The point of a writ is to collect the money THAT DAY.
It's a order by the court and they have to execute it. The purpose of the writ is to collect all money and if not get some money and set a payment plan up.

Don't be whinging it's not fair they want the money today, it's an order by the court.

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:19

He didn't bury his head in the sand he was trying to fight it and provided a "case of evidence " against their claim. Burying his head in the sand would have been him ignoring it.

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HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 29/05/2018 19:19

Erm no OP, il think you’l find that the vast majority of high court bailiffs are extreamly professional, it isn’t a nice job, but someone has to do it.

By you not paying that debt the other party could be in similar circumstances to yourselves, they are also awaiting money owned to them, pot, kettle, black really!

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:21

Well they can order all they want to get it THAT DAY but if there is no money then they can't have it THAT DAY can they. They can't set up a payment plan when there is no money to set up a payment plan with so they can have items from the property if they need it THAT DAY can't they.

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HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 29/05/2018 19:23

So he clearly had the metal capability to “fight” this case, work full time, and look after his children, sonim struggling to see what his MH issues were in dealing with this debt, going by what you’ve written here is is clearly a capable individual!

However he’s lost the case, the court found him responsible for the debt, there was always a possibility that it would go to the high court.

Why hasn’t he got proffessional advice?

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:23

Haud it's a multi million pound company. I don't think they are sitting around waiting for his £6 grand really are they.

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siwel123 · 29/05/2018 19:24

Op he didn't let them in for 4 hours did he though? So they couldn't sieze goods.

You're playing the victim here but in the end your partner is the one who failed to pay a company or person and owes them 6k isn't he?

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:24

Haud I explained earlier in the thread that he could do none of those things. I can't be arsed to go back and repeat it.

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namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:25

Siwel why did he not let them in?

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siwel123 · 29/05/2018 19:26

Again it's a multi million pound company but does that give anyone the right to fail to pay them?
It's like me saying hey tesco make millions of pounds right so it's ok for me to steal 6k worth of goods? No it isn't ight and that's what your partner has done.

He refused to let the high court agents in. So they couldn't take goods.

siwel123 · 29/05/2018 19:27

he didn't let them in because apparntley a child can't be in the same room as him and the court agents? He didn't need to move them to another room

namechange3567756 · 29/05/2018 19:27

He's not saying he won't pay the debt.

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