Surely this can’t be coincidence? MMC and symptoms.

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I know that every pregnancy is different. You can get sickness in one but not the other. I totally understand this.

However, I have a question over my experience of a MMC and pregnancy symptoms.

I’m 10 weeks pregnant with my fourth pregnancy. I have two DC.
With the first baby I was sick once in the morning and fine for the rest for the day. Easy!
With the second one I was pretty tired by 3pm but only got a few waves of nausea for a couple of hours in the morning.

With the second one I feel in hindsight it was doomed at the start. I had a 12 week scan which showed I was 13+1 and the baby was perfectly developed and heart was beating. However, it didn’t move. Not once, not one tiny bit. Nearly 2 weeks later the baby’s heart stopped beating. I went for a private scan to confirm my ‘gut feeling’ and I wasn’t wrong.
With that pregnancy from 6 weeks all the way through I had horrendous nausea, that was utterly debilitating, done crushing triedness that made me genuinely feel like I was dying. It was absolutely fucking awful and I couldn’t understand how anyone could go through that more than once.
The day the baby’s heart stopped beating (I was told at the scan when it would have been) I was violently sick for 5 hours straight. I couldn’t even stand up.

Roll on 12 months and I’m pregnant again, I’m 10 weeks. Had an early scan and everything is fine, the baby was moving!
I have a bit of tiredness and mild nausea in the morning on some days but not others. If I hadn’t seen the BFP then I wouldn’t even guess that I was pregnant.

Surely my horrendous symptoms the third time were linked to something ‘not being right’?

For what is worth the first two are boys. The third baby was a boy and of course I’ve no idea what this baby is yet.

I thought the general feeling was that horrendous morning sickness was a good sign as it showed you were producing lots of pregnancy hormones.

I’m so sorry for your loss

I’ve had a mmc and they are just shit. When I fell pregnant afterwards I spent the entire pregnancy in a state of panic. I saw everything as a sign - good and bad. And further along I used to deliberately drink ice cold drinks to wake the poor thing up so I could feel him moving!

I’m sorry I don’t really have much Advice. Nothing you’ve said sounds worrying - as you say they’re all different. I see you’ve had an early scan already. I have to say the only thing that got me through was paying for extra reassurance scans.

Sorry with the third one it was doomed from the start.

Oh don’t worry I don’t need advice. I’m pretty happy with this pregnancy. One thing I’ve learned is that there’s absolutely nothing I can do to prevent the baby’s heart from stopping. I’m just grateful that it hasn’t so far. And my ‘gut feeling’ this time is one of huge positivity.

It was basically just a question or theory.

I feel as though my body was throwing out hormones times 10 in order to keep a sick baby alive.

A bit like a plant putting all its efforts into a dying stem when actually there’s nothing it can do to save it and it just needs to be taken away.

I am sorry for your loss.
Perhaps it was to do with Down's syndrome and raised HCG levels?

I lost my 4th pregnancy at 18 weeks in January (but my son had died around 14 weeks). At the first scan his heart was beating but he was not moving at all (it was the first thing I noticed). The nuchal translucency was very bad and I knew something was very wrong. The doctors were never able to do a caryotype but they are certain it was a trisomy.

Anyway, I have always been very sick in early pregnancy (lost 13kg for DC1 for example), but for DC4 it was horrendous. I spent 48 hours on the bathroom floor without even being able to crawl back to bed.
I have read since that a baby with T-21 often leads to raised HCG levels in the mother. I think it might explain the sickness.

Do you know what's weird I knew with my first pregnancy instinctively that something wasn't right, I knew it was going to be bad news at my scan and it was, a MMC.

With my second everything was fine, and again I knew it was. I can't explain it to anyone else how, but I just did.

In terms of symptoms I was sick with both pregnancies, but more with the second successful one.

I think it very much depends on pregnancy. Possibly for you it was but then you could get pregnant again and end up with severe morning sickness and a baby.

My second pregnancy i was rough as fuck, tired vomiting and dizzy into the third trimester. I had a healthy baby. My first i vomited a little but everything was far less pronounced. I had a mmc. I must admit if i dont get poorly when or if i finally conceive dc2, ill be worried.

I did get very unwell just before the mmc was scanned but im unsure if that was worry because something just felt wrong or if it was real.

Im very sorry for your loss.

My mum had 4 miscarriages before me. With each one she had very little sickness.

With me she said she was "as sick as a dog" from day one, and the whole thing felt very different.

So I don't think it's as easy as saying "more sickness = something wrong" but it is possible your body reacts differently to a healthy pregnancy perhaps?

I had two identical pregnancies with terrible sickness. Dc 1 has no issues, dc2 has autism and learning difficulties. I really don't think you are right to link to link the symptoms.

NotBurpeesAgain that’s exactly what I’m thinking. The tests came back very low indeed, I can’t rememver exactly but it was 1 in 10’s of thousand chance.

Of course that certainly doesn’t mean no chance and I still strongly wonder whether there was something inherently wrong with the poor thing.

I lost my 4th pregnancy 5 weeks ago, I was supposed to be 11+3 but turns out my baby died a few weeks earlier (was a Mmc but I mc naturally iykwim)

I had NO symptoms whatsoever - no sore boobs/sickness/rlp- nothing. Which is why I knew something wasn’t right. My previous 3 pregnancies were identical to each other in terms of symptoms.

Sorry for your loss Keef, it’s fucking horrible isn’t it?

I understand that some people have no symptoms. I think the difference in my case is that the baby had developed all the way through to the second trimester before the heart stopped beating.
My belief is that during this development something was seriously wrong and my body was desperately chucking out HCG in order to keep it going.

I had no sickness or symptoms with my 4 children. But the pregnancy I lost due to anencephaly I felt awful

I had a MMC. Turned out my baby had died 2 weeks prior to my scan. It made sense when I thought about it because for those last two weeks my symptoms had disappeared. Wasn’t feeling sick anymore no pregnancy tiredness.
Obviously my pregnancy hormones had dropped. I just thought I had gotten over the first trimester hill as I was 14 weeks at that point.

My aunty says the opposite. She had several miscarriages. All the babies she lost, she had no sickness at all.

With the 2 she had, she had bad nausea.

Yes, I understand that people’s symptoms stop when their baby stops growing.

I was asking about it personally for me. That it can’t have been coincidence (I mean, it could have been but I don’t believe it was). I think Notburpeesagain is the only one who see’s what I’m saying.

Sorry I missed your post Aj.
How far along were you?

I have lost three. With my successful pregnancies symptoms were horrendous but consistently horrendous. With two of my mc, I had a couple of days where my symptoms went into overdrive around about the time the baby died. I thought exactly same, that it was my body putting its all into trying to keep the baby going.

I was 16 weeks by the time I had the tfmr. I honestly had never felt more pregnant