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AIBU to think that religious events / beliefs don’t exempt people from being considerate neighbours?

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BogstandardBelle · 26/05/2018 12:52

We live in the ground floor of an apartment building. Our upstairs neighbours moved in two years ago, an older couple. We don’t really know them, but have spoken in passing.

Most if the time, it’s fine - they don’t make much noise, just the two of them. But frequently - on festival / holidays associated with their religion - they invite their entire family to stay for several days. This means up to 6 adults and 4 young children in a 2 bedroom flat. They don’t go out often, not even with the children, except for the adults going to worship. The kids make a hell of a racket - jumping and running on wooden floorboards. In the evenings they eat very late, very long meals which involve singing, chanting, clapping and moving around scraping chairs up till midnight or later - and still the kids running around / crying / shouting. And we hear / feel it all, every time. DH joked last night that he was starting to hum along ;-) it keeps our own children awake and makes it difficult to relax in our own home. It seems to be every other weekend atm.

They also keep leaving the back door to the building unlocked every weekend as their religion does not allow them to use any electrical devices at this time (front door has an electronic lock). We’ve had a spate of break-ins to the building and been warned by both the police and the management company that we must all ensure that both doors are secure.

I think we should say something - ask them to stop being so noisy late at night basically. DH thinks there isn’t any point - it’s part of the way they celebrate their religion and they aren’t going to change that.

Who IBU? Other than the neighbours!

So as not to drip feed, I’ve not mentioned the religion by name (though I know it’s dead obvious to many which one it is) because its nothing to do with the specifics - it could be any religion with its particular (noisy) rituals and beliefs. So do religious beliefs trump being a considerate neighbour?

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Hermagsjesty · 26/05/2018 17:05

I think you should probably mention the door - ideally in a polite and understanding letter - because it’s a safety lift. If they speak to thier religious leader they may be able to get granted an exception or you may be able to come to a solution

Minionoftheantichrist · 26/05/2018 22:28

Friday nights were always at my grandparents. We weren’t allowed to make a noise mainly because it wasn’t seen as appropriate for Sabbath. Same on Saturday. We played very quietly. No music, singing, tv etc. Regarding the entrance door that needs sorting out. That just can’t carry on as it is. Either they get special permission to lock it or they make an arrangement with someone who isn’t Jewish to do do it. My grandparents asked their neighbours if they’d mind turning their lights on for them. It is a sensitive issue but in an apartment this situation every Friday and festivals is totally selfish and inconsiderate.

kalapattar · 26/05/2018 22:43

There seem to be some interesting solutions to getting around switching on electrical devices (after a quick Google).

Not helpful to a door lock though.

MaireadMacSweeney · 26/05/2018 22:53

Lol at the posters assuming the family are Muslim. What ignorance.

Why scoff at someone's assumption? Perhaps that poster doesn't live in a muslim country. We can't all be expected to know or be interested in the customs of every bloody religion ffs.

Mirrorwriting · 26/05/2018 22:58

I used to have a (Christian) housemate who used to wake up at dawn to loudly sing hymns and pray ‘In tongues’. I always wondered why her prayers never gave her the enlightenment to be considerate.

fuzzywuzzy · 26/05/2018 23:10

I used to live in an ultra orthodox Jewish area and they do sing and celebrate late into the night. Didn’t mind as they were next door not upstairs from us.

I tihnk they may not realise quite how loud it is for you talk to them. Also tell them seriously they can’t leave the doors unlocked as it’s dangerous. I’d offer to open the doors for them during their sabbath (if you don’t mind) when they need.

I’ve helped out our neighbours loads of times, turning off air conditioning turning off/on lights etc

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