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To KNOW I was right in this argument

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VogueVVague · 26/05/2018 12:15

Me and dad (hes irish) were discussing the abortion referendum. He gets really irritated by my "feminist" stance a lot of the time.

Anyway in our debate, I said i thought it was shocking that the gay marriage vote (not life threatening) happened years before the abortion vote (life threatening).

I said i thought that this was because the gay marriage issue was about empowering more men, while abortion rights is about men losing control over their ability to police womens bodies.

He stormed out the room calling me a joke.

But im right, arent i?

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spontaneousgiventime · 26/05/2018 15:23

YA 100% right.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/05/2018 15:42

I totally agree with you. Misogyny rules unfortunately. Abortion would always have been legal if men gave birth. Ditto all the other cruelties acted against women.

junebirthdaygirl · 26/05/2018 15:54

It is really only your opinion so not really fair to your Dad. There is no way of deciding in this case if you are definitely right. Opinions are only that and everyone has to be prepared to accept they are not 100 right in all their opinions.
I think the Gay Marriage campaign encouraged people and built momentum as surely women have benefited from that too.

Quartz2208 · 26/05/2018 16:10

But that is just Ireland - homosexuality and abortion were both legalised at the same time in the UK (1967) civil partnerships took nearly 40 further years.
Whereas I am a believer in the concept that religion was borne out of a need to control people in particular women I would be wary of completely putting a feminist slant on why it took 3 years (which is not years before) from gay marriage to legalised abortion.

I think it is far to simple to say abortion would be legalised if men gave birth - because the issue at the heart of abortion is to do with the foetus and the prolife belief in the right to life wound up in the 10 commandments.

So yes you have a point but no of course you are not 100% right because you are putting forward one element of a far more complicated argument

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