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AIBU to say well done Ireland!

92 replies

onalongsabbatical · 26/05/2018 11:50

AIBU to say well done Ireland! I feel immensely moved. A real sign of positive and enlightened change on this planet of ours where so much is awful. You lovely people. Let’s have a thread of celebration – all welcome, of course. Dissent will be discussed if necessary. But, for the moment I want to cheer. Hurrah!

AIBU to say well done Ireland!
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Nellyphants · 26/05/2018 12:33

Puzzled have you ever been in Ireland? Have you ever met an Irish person. Were they saying rosaries & dousing themselves I’m holy water?

Pebblespony · 26/05/2018 12:35

I think people have a misconception about the religious nature of Ireland. It's not wall to wall with nuns and priests. A lot of people, like me, got married in a church and baptised the DC but that's as far as it goes. It was more a tradition/cultural thing. People who rely on the church for guidance in issues are seen as being a bit backward IMO.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 26/05/2018 12:38

fantastic news for Irelands Women. I hope there is legislation about harassment outside clinics to protect the women using them.

And yes NI next. All eyes on us now. Get rid of the dinosaurs and bring NI into the 21st century. Please.

MiggeldyHiggins · 26/05/2018 12:40

The twats are still talking shite and lying on the TV "there was no need to do this for womens health, Ireland has always been a great place to be pregnant"

WTF are they on?

onalongsabbatical · 26/05/2018 12:44

MiggeldyHiggins they are a dying out breed. This is real change, now. I'm not Irish, but I've been a feminist for 48 years and I feel really, really emotional today. Sending huge love to all my Irish sisters.

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NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 26/05/2018 12:45

Excellent result.

I hope my birth country (Northern Ireland) decide to follow suit.

Pebblespony · 26/05/2018 12:46

The campaign was a bit illuminating though. Rónán Mullen in particular didn't come out if it looking too good. I'm also particularly disgusted at the TDs that voted against sending it for a vote at all. My mother thinks the Healy-Raes are great. We had to agree to never discuss them again as I was afraid we'd fall out. She voted yes though.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 26/05/2018 12:46

Ireland has always been a great place to be pregnant"

Which is entirely missing the point. it’s not a great place for the ones that can’t or don’t want to be pregnant. In fact it’s torture.

notaflyingmonkey · 26/05/2018 12:46

Not wishing to hijack the thread, but (I'm British and don't understand) can someone explain to me why the UK law about abortion doesn't extend to NI? Is it a case of the devolved administration being able to opt out?

MiggeldyHiggins · 26/05/2018 12:47

Missing the point but also a bare faced lie.

Fintress · 26/05/2018 12:47

Delighted with the results news. Remembering Savita. Hopefully no more women will suffer what she did.

Repealthe8th · 26/05/2018 12:48

I've been in bits all morning. It's come 10 years too late for me but hopefully now my daughters and nieces will have easier options should they ever find themselves with a crisis pregnancy and will never have to experience the fear and loneliness I did having to travel to another country.

RavenWings · 26/05/2018 12:48

The UK cant do anything about NI. It is its own country in that respect.

They can absolutely put pressure on the NI government (if it existed at the moment as theres no assembly - the UK need to get cracking on that too). At least all of ROI will have equal rights now.

onalongsabbatical · 26/05/2018 12:53

@Repealthe8th Flowers

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VogueVVague · 26/05/2018 12:54

@RavenWings
Thats true, i think UK and ROI need to go 50/50 on leading a massive pressure campaign. Faced with pressure from both sides, NI has to change.

Sprinklesinmyelbow · 26/05/2018 12:58

notaflyingmonkey when abortion was legalised in the U.K. in the 60s NI was deliberately excluded from the legislation. It was an extremely religious divided place and the troubles were brewing. The government at the time couldn’t face trying to deal with legalising abortion there in the face of all the problems BUT the idea was always to “come back to it later” no U.K. government since has been able to face doing so and tbf the time probably hadnt ever been right with the troubles. Then NI had a devolved government and it’s been up to them to decide whether to change the law

notaflyingmonkey · 26/05/2018 13:12

Thanks for the explaination Sprinkles Hopefully the women of NI will be next then.

Well done Ireland!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/05/2018 13:17

I've never been to Ireland but I've been openmouthed at some of the stuff I've seen on Twitter over the last few weeks. The absolute worst was a long series of tweets by a woman who was pregnant with twins.

Whitesea · 26/05/2018 13:18

I think the vote shows that religious conviction is no longer strong, the priests were strongly in favour of a no vote. This is a massive up yours to thei power they had and continued to try to have over the population. Irish women should celebrate their liberation.

Sprinklesinmyelbow · 26/05/2018 13:21

It is an up theirs. They’ve held Ireland in an abuse stronghold for many years and now they’re rotting and dying. Good riddance

BuntyII · 26/05/2018 13:27

I'm very pleased for the women down south, hopefully we will get our human rights in NI soon but I very much doubt it. This may help women in NI access abortion without having to leave the country though, I don't know if we could access a doctor without being resident in ROI but we could have abortion pills sent to a mailbox in the Republic without fear of being prosecuted.

Sprinklesinmyelbow · 26/05/2018 13:34

Bunty hopefully you’ll be able to give false names as you can in GB because drs just want you to have your abortion and don’t really care whether you are who you say you are.
Incidentally this is why I believe the statistics for the number of women who travelled are under estimated as they are taken from women who’ve given Irish addresses

deadringer · 26/05/2018 13:48

I said it on another thread and I will say it again here, IRELAND IS NOT A RELIGIOUS COUNTRY! It gets spouted on here all the time but it is just not true, and the referendum polls prove it. Irish people love using the church for ceremonies, christenings, communions etc, and the church put up with being used because that's the last hold they have, but aside from mostly very elderly people, most Irish people don't give a toss about the Catholic Church.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/05/2018 13:58

Puzzled have you ever been in Ireland? Have you ever met an Irish person. Were they saying rosaries & dousing themselves I’m holy water?

"Yes" to all except the holy water (wink) Maybe I mix with the wrong people, and I obviously don't pretend the many Irish folk I know represent all, but most of them are indeed staunch, practising Catholics with a surprising level of concern over what their local priest will think of ... well, just about anything, really

I absolutely accept the views of those who say Ireland is now only "culturally Catholic" - just a bit surprised, that's all

Dulra · 26/05/2018 14:05

Thats true, i think UK and ROI need to go 50/50 on leading a massive pressure campaign. Faced with pressure from both sides, NI has to change.
Don't think the republic should put any pressure on NI it would not be received well NI is part of the UK that's where the pressure needs to come from.

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