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Are WBU? Financial gifts to nieces / nephews

100 replies

PlumsInTheIcebox · 22/05/2018 12:00

NC for this as some of the details are pretty specific.

DH and I came into some money about five years ago. We took the decision to give some money to our nieces and nephews, and created trusts for BIL’s three daughters and for my sister’s son. The children will be able to access the funds when they are 18. At the time, both families were complete but we have always intended that if either sibling were to have another child, we would do the same for them.

About 12 months later, BIL’s wife left him for the OM after an affair. They have, to their credit, both behaved pretty decently about the divorce and subsequent implications and everything is pretty amicable. They share custody and we still see BIL’s exW a few times a year at family events, usually her children’s birthday celebrations.

BIL’s exW is now expecting a child with her new DP, who will of course be a half sibling to our nieces. At the most recent family event she came over to sit with DH and me and after some small talk asked us about our plans to create a trust for her unborn child. We were both a bit stunned but DH managed to gather himself to explain that it wasn’t our intention to create a trust for her child with her new partner. She accused us of using her unborn child to punish her for cheating on and leaving BIL and stormed off.

DH is absolutely adamant that his loyalty is to his brother, not to his exW and any further children that she may have, and I am inclined to agree with him. Are we BU not to match our previous gifts for this or any other children that she may have?

OP posts:
flowery · 22/05/2018 12:17

”it doesn't seem fair on the new baby not to have the same as his half-sisters but I really don't think it's our responsibility to resolve this.”

Yes to both of those. It doesn’t seem fair the new baby won’t have the same, therefore if his parents want to ensure fairness, they can set up an account to match. Not expect completely unrelated people to do so!

yoyo1234 · 22/05/2018 12:17

Wow, YANBU.

Trinity66 · 22/05/2018 12:18

I would be very surprised if anyone would say YABU. The neck of some people though, bloody hell

bonnyshide · 22/05/2018 12:19

This child will have no blood ties to your family...she cheated on your BIL. It was very inappropriate for her to ask for money for her child.

She sounds like trouble, I'd keep an eye on her.

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/05/2018 12:20

I agree with everyone else, you have no financial or moral obligation to this new child.

overnightangel · 22/05/2018 12:20

Tell the money grabbing cheating cunt to fuck off!!

lapetitesiren · 22/05/2018 12:20

She's being unreasonable but I wouldn't fall out with her over it. She may just be anxious about her childs future and not thought it through properly.

Cuckooclocks · 22/05/2018 12:20

Completely unreasonable of her to even ask - what a grabby CF!! This child has no relation whatsoever to you and you will in all likelihood never have a relationship with it. I’m flabbergasted!

Cuckooclocks · 22/05/2018 12:22

Trinity66 - yes!!! The actual NECK!

TakeMe2Insanity · 22/05/2018 12:24

WTH?? She cannot seriously have expected a yes.
YAB TOTALLY reasonable.

Happinesss · 22/05/2018 12:24

She’s ridiculous!
The baby is actually no relation to you Confused

MatildaTheCat · 22/05/2018 12:25

She chose to leave the family who were so generous to her children.

Perhaps she should ask her new inlaws to set up a trust fund for her new child. Only fair, right? Grin

As an aside and none of my business, I personally think 18 is too young to access a trust fund. Fine to be able to use sums for specific purposes such as education but not to get their hands on a lump sum.

Fabricwitch · 22/05/2018 12:25

GC should treat all the children the same or be threatened with no-contact, even though they may feel that the non-biological children are nothing to do with them.

This situation is very difficult. The child is not a step niece/nephew. If the wife had a child of her own before marrying OP's brother, that would be a step niece/nephew and I think should be given the same treatment. But in this situation the wife has left the OP's brother before becoming pregnant with another man's child. She has left the family rather than joined the family.

TheMythOfFingerprints · 22/05/2018 12:25

I can't believe calF hasn't posted yet to say how unreasonable you are.
I'm just gonna mark my place to see how they spin this one.

Fabricwitch · 22/05/2018 12:26

Different*

biffyboom · 22/05/2018 12:27

Wow! What a cheek, do not give them a penny. That baby is no relation to you.

Caribou58 · 22/05/2018 12:29

YANBU. She's a CF. Don't give it any more thought.

StaplesCorner · 22/05/2018 12:29

I can't believe there's even anything to think about - entirely grabby. But I too want Calf to come on and say not only should they give the ex-SiL a nice little gift, they should provide for any kids her new partner has either previously or in the future as well.

Happinesss · 22/05/2018 12:29

TheMythOfFingerprints

I was thinking the same thing.

CalF will be here soonGrin

tempester28 · 22/05/2018 12:32

She is very cheeky and you should not be expected to give a fund to the new child. However! Your neices may find themselves in a difficult situation depending on the amount of money involved and when they are going to turn 18 in relation to the new child. Their mum may expect or insist they share the money and this could lead to problems that you never intended. the

viques · 22/05/2018 12:35

She and the new partner, and the new partners relatives and friends have got 18 years to build up some sort of fund for the new baby. Should be plenty of time to fund some sort of little nest egg for him.

Trooperslane2 · 22/05/2018 12:36

She's a fucking lunatic.

GalwayWayfarer · 22/05/2018 12:36

The new baby will have aunts and uncles of its own who may choose to provide for it in the way you have for your nieces and nephews. You certainly aren't obliged to!

expatinscotland · 22/05/2018 12:36

She wins CF of 2018. No, YANBU. Don't give a penny. Her baby is not your h's niece or nephew. She's barking and cheeky as fuck. Glad your H has a spine and didn't pull some wishy-washy, lily-livered answer like so many do because they have no balls. She chooses to fall out with you over her greed, tough shit.

GalwayWayfarer · 22/05/2018 12:37

Who is calf?