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Is this tattoo correct?

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Puppychew · 21/05/2018 19:21

A friend has just posted a picture of her tattoo on FB, am I correct in thinking their shouldn’t be any apostrophes?

The wording is-

Daddy’s Girl
Mama’s Angel

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FaFoutis · 21/05/2018 21:00

I don't recall being taught apostrophes at school, lots of adults can't use them properly (I teach literate and intelligent adults, I would say 50% are not confident with apostrophes) . This is a gap in the education of a generation I think.
We will be able to trust the next generation of tattooists what with all their SPAG these days.

LongGame · 21/05/2018 21:03

I don't think its is an exception.

Its is the gender neutral version of his or hers therefore no apostrophe. Realising that made it a lot easier for me to get it right (assuming I am right Grin).

LongGame · 21/05/2018 21:04

I was definitely taught at school (I'm in my 50's).

FaFoutis · 21/05/2018 21:05

I'm a bit younger. Yes the older students are the best at it.

MrsHathaway · 21/05/2018 21:06

I'm a native speaker of English. I say box's sides and Laurence Fox's smile. So I spell them.

I don't know what style guide you're looking at. All of mine use an s if it's pronounced.

Alpacages · 21/05/2018 21:12

Yes string is right. If the word is already showing that the subject is plural then the apostrophe goes before the s.
So the people’s champion, the men’s toilets.

Pluckedpencil · 21/05/2018 21:30

Possessive sentences like "the bag of Kate" are in the genitive case. They sound weird to our ear as Modern English doesn't really have a genitive case like, say, today's German, instead it just has the 's, which is really a possessive case, it isn't as broad. However, in Old English, there did exist this genitive case, and it was like the modern German one, i.e. it ended in 'es', hence the shortening to 's in Modern English.

Wyatt98765 · 21/05/2018 21:45

Wow! Thank you all!! I understand an awful lot more now than I did earlier!!

Apostrophe’s have always confused me!

Argh! Just wrote that sentence above (and was feeling a lot clearer about the whole thing!) and then my phone has corrected my plural Apostrophes to and Apostrophe’s - why has it done this? Which one is correct? Confused Apostrophe’s don’t own anything - it’s not ‘Apostrophe’s bag’ - and it isn’t an shortening of ‘Apostrophe is’, so why had my phone done this?

Wyatt98765 · 21/05/2018 21:45

Sorry! Why HAS my phone done this?

TravellingFleet · 21/05/2018 21:49

Phones get the apostrophes wrong often, and you have to go back and correct!

Oysterbabe · 21/05/2018 21:51

I'm glad that their tattoo is correct. I know someone who had a tattoo in memory of a stillborn baby and it had a terrible grammatical error. I don't know whether anyone ever told him, I'm not sure there's a sensitive way to do that.

CressyBessy · 22/05/2018 00:06

There could also be a situation where the exact same sentence means that Kate is a bag

Not unless the word ‘a’ is added.

FASH84 · 22/05/2018 00:16

A friend of mine carries around apostrophe stickers and amends signs, posters and so on. It's actually quite straight forward and until I was at Uni I didn't realise, otherwise well educated people had just never been taught how to use them.

steff13 · 22/05/2018 02:30

I think here it would be better to carry around blank stickers to cover unnecessary apostrophes. I'm forever seeing signs that say things like, "Purse's for sale," it something like that. People think the apostrophe makes the word plural.

saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 22/05/2018 02:47

MrsHathaway - did you mean to spell Murphy's wrong ? Grin

Pluckedpencil · 22/05/2018 06:05

I work in translation and can confirm that lots of well educated and intelligent people have no idea where a comma belongs, often to the detriment of meaning.

iklboo · 22/05/2018 07:37

It's was me that put Muphry's Law. And yes, it's deliberate Grin

Is this tattoo correct?
Puppychew · 22/05/2018 13:18

Blush I know how to use their/there, will blame my phone for that one!

Thanks for the explanations, I always thought when an apostrophe was used in it’s it’s used to replace the letter i.

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knitknack · 22/05/2018 13:30

It I still puppy - you only ever apostrophe it’s to shorten ‘it is’, you’re correct!

knitknack · 22/05/2018 13:31

Same for ‘who is’ which becomes ‘who’s’... you’d use ‘whose’ for ownership

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