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AIBU to think 16 year old DS can have girl in bedroom with door shut during day but not sleep overnight?

39 replies

Onemandown · 21/05/2018 00:01

Currently having this row with 16 year old DS as platonic female friend slept in his room last night - I had said fine to stay over but separate rooms - they had stayed up late after I had gone to bed and he said he just nodded off and hadn't meant to stay in with her.

My house rules are it's ok to have a girl in his room with door shut during day, I always knock before going in. He had a lovely girlfriend for a few months at the beginning of the year and I am under no illusions of what they were probably getting up to. However no girls allowed on sleepovers unless in different rooms though, my thinking is that that is very different and I feel a responsibility towards the girls. I don't know his female friend's parents and don't know what they would be happy with or what they have been told about sleeping arrangements. At that age they often don't have the confidence or maturity to be able to say 'stop' or 'no' if things are going further than they want and it's so much harder to do that in the middle of the night in a bed than during the afternoon when the girl could choose to leave the house and go home.

Once he and a future girlfriend are 18, if they are in a relationship for a while then I'm happy to imagine sleeping over will be fine with me. I just don't fancy trying to police this at 16 years old so have I have the 'seperate sleeping rooms for girls, whether girlfriend or platonic friend' rule. DS thinks I'm being old fashioned and not trusting him to know how to behave, thinks I am overreacting. Interested to hear how you choose how to do this and what you do/don't allow - AIBU?

OP posts:
Onemandown · 21/05/2018 12:06

Maybe I haven't done a good job of explaining myself...

I have had long chats with my boys about relationships, about consent, about contraception, about STDs, the unreality of porn and how it doesn't reflect how sex may be in real life etc. I'll ask my boys to watch that video one poster linked to, I remember watching that before and it covers the misunderstandings over consent well.

I know that you can have sex and get pregnant/stds during the day Smile thanks for pointing that out!! I think I made it clear I was pretty sure stuff was going on during day/evening in his room and that's ok, I never wished to prevent that once everyone was 16.

I haven't pryed and asked how far things went, none of my business. I don't want to have to police this so when asked if girls can stay overnight I say different rooms as I don't know girls parents opinion or their awareness of where they are...while they are under 18 I still have a duty of care over young guests under my roof.

I stand by my opinion that this is because it is on my mind that a girl is more vunerable to pressure to go further sexually than she feels ready to in the middle of the night in someone's bed rather than during the day. I don't want to stop them having sex, I just want the girls to feel in control in my house.

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MrsTommyBanks · 21/05/2018 12:14

Sex only happens in the dark. True fact.
Sorry OP I think you are being ridiculous.

MrsTommyBanks · 21/05/2018 12:16

Sorry just seen your second post.
Then have that conversation with the girl. Everyone then knows what expectations everyone has.

lindyhopy · 21/05/2018 12:18

I completely agree with you OP and would do the same. I think you are being very responsible.

Costacoffeeplease · 21/05/2018 13:29

I too think you’re being ridiculous, but not my circus not my monkeys, you obviously feel you’re right on this so crack on. Not sure why you posted really

chavtasticfirebanger · 21/05/2018 13:35

Why is it taken as truth that because a few MNetters started being lad mad and shagging age 14, that all teenagers do?
I didn't.
They could well be inmocent. However ai wouldn't allow a door clised full stop.
Sure the cool mumz will be out to criticise me for not raising my kids to be comfortable with their sexuality ie letting boyfriends/girlfriends sleep over age 16 so thay because having sex is inevitablr, they need to be somewhere safe to do it ir they will shag in scary sark places like bushes and parks.
Id be pissed off too OP.

RickOShay · 21/05/2018 13:36

I am with you op.
The day is different to night. Stand your ground. Fwiw 16 yo dd has a her boyfriend round during the day, but he hasn’t stayed the night. She is wrestling with the injustice of this Grin

chavtasticfirebanger · 21/05/2018 13:37

I wouldnt
Sorry op just read you think theure doing stuff at yours while youre home in the day.
Would you clise your bedroom door and shag your husband all afternoon? Thpught not. Totally inappropriate imo

sunnydaynoworking · 21/05/2018 13:38

I think I would do as you do, OP - though I’d probably want the door open in daytime too, especially if a lot of different girls are round rather than one long term one.

LadyLance · 21/05/2018 13:50

OP, I can see where you are coming from. Obviously teens can have sex during the day, but I do think it is less likely to happen (even if the door is closed) if others are in the house and popping in and out. I also agree that a girl may feel more able to leave during the day. I also agree that if you/they have told the parents she is staying over in a separate room, this should be enforced.

Anyway, if this is the rule, then I do think he should follow it. If he can have an adult discussion about why the rule should be changed, then maybe consider changing it- but if he gets angry and defensive and can't see your point of view, then I think all discussion should be shut down and the rule stays as it is.

Gagastwin · 21/05/2018 13:50

Op isn't saying she believes it ok only ok to have sex in the day.

What op IS saying is she doesn't want someone elses s child over her house at night when it is very possible the parents of that child will not know she is at s boys house. She is also saying that she doesn't want him having girls over casually.

Having a girl sleep over is the issue, not the sex.

Gu33s3inpark · 21/05/2018 14:28

I think that this shows a lack of respect for parents of both 16 year olds. They should be concentrating on their education.I think it's too young. However, I had a strict up bringing compared to today. I know people who are decades older who still have to obey parental house rules !

UndomesticHousewife · 21/05/2018 15:15

My dds boyfriends stay over but these are long term boyfriends of well over a year (dds are older than 16 now)
I'm close to them and we've talked contraception, consent and everything else. I wouldn't be happy and wouldn't allow a new boyfriend to stay over but I know these boys well and when they're here I know my dds are safe.

Namechange128 · 21/05/2018 15:20

My parents were like you. I asked her about it later and they weren't worried about us having sex (Northern European, very liberal!), but worried we'd be less likely to use contraception in the middle of the night. No idea if this is actually a reasonable belief, but I still think your rule is pretty reasonable. You can be ok with sex and still not ok with live in partners...

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