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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To still feel guilty about controlling relationship?

22 replies

Someonehelpmi · 18/05/2018 10:48

I was with my ex partner for just over a year, I fell pregnant only a few months into the relationship but we still decided to give it a go. I knew he had a dodgy past (criminal record, aggression, drugs etc) but thought it was just that, in the past.

When we moved in together when I was around 7 months pregnant he would always disappear for a nights to spend time getting high with his friends, was pretty lazy never helped with anything despite me being 8 months pregnant and still working on my feet to make rent and utility payments. I thought it was typical male behaviour or nerves about the baby so just left it.

When I had the baby it just got worse, the night before I was induced he came back completely hammered messed up the flat kicked me out the bed calling me a moody bitch etc and then saying how horrible I am etc when I said I didn't want him at the birth. I was left for nights and days with a newborn baby on my own, still doing absolutely everything, when I asked for help hed say 'No I'm comfy' and roll back over in bed until about 1pm. If I challenged him he said all you do is have a go at me, you harass me etc. It would lead to these explosive arguments ans one night in the snow he pulled out the electricity leaving me with no way to feed our baby.

I always stayed because he told me all women want to do is take babies away from their fathers, calling me a child snatcher etc. After another argument he told me to just fuck of so I did that (even though it was only me paying for the flat). He was then so apologetic said he adored me, then said he didn't want to live unless I was with him and disappered threatening to kill himself if I didn't come back. I stood my ground and he just switched to all these angry abusive messages calling me a child abuser, a danger to our child, taking me to court etc and considerable amount more.

Before all of this he said he was like this because he had postnatal depression but I was the reason for his depression because all I did was have a go at him. I have not stopped him from seeing his daughter but unless it's on his terms he won't accept anything else and has told everyone I'm stopping him (I am keen and know the importance of having a father child relationship, I have arranged all the visits and there have been a few issues each time DD came back).

Anyway I'm listening to a programme on the radio about postnatal depression in fathers and how it's unrecognised and a stigma with it. I basically want to know if I should be more compassionate towards him because of it all and if he was genuinly depressed and I've been so ignorant of it.

There is so much more to all of this and id be here all day if I wrote the whole story. I was far from perfect in the relationship but i guess I just want another opinion on if I have been horrible and ignorant or if this is his manipulation crawling back into my mind.

Sorry for the rambling, I don't expect many replies just needed somewhere to get it all of my chest. Im a young first time mum and gave him all of me and all my love all I wanted was for him to just look at me and see how I was struggling and begging for some help.

It's all been so stressful, I'm constantly clouded with guilt and worry about it in doing the right or wrong thing.

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Gilead · 18/05/2018 10:55

Absolutely not. He's an abusive arse. Yes PND can occur in fathers, however this started before hand and do you really want to bring your child up thinking that this sort of behaviour is acceptable? You did the right thing, keep it that way for your dd's sake. [flowers'

Gilead · 18/05/2018 10:55
Flowers
Someonehelpmi · 18/05/2018 10:56

Thank you, it's just hard not to believe what they say when they were such a big part of your life and you trusted them

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Gilead · 18/05/2018 11:47

Someone I did that trip for 20 years. My dc are paying for that. I should have left sooner for their sakes. Really, keep strong. Star

DiddimusStench · 18/05/2018 11:55

He did/does not have postnatal depression.
He is a cunt.

Put plans in place to protect both you and your child.

helpconfused · 18/05/2018 12:12

I've just come out of a similar 11 year relationship. My son isn't currently having contact and I don't know if it will be applied for. To be honest I would rather it didn't as I don't want my son being exposed any more to his fathers ways

PinkHeart5914 · 18/05/2018 12:18

Don’t feel guilty!

You took your child away and saved them from growing up with a nasty daddy and hopefully presvented your child turning in to a monster just like him, as your be a better role model alone!

You had 2 choices either stay and watch it damage your child over the years or leave before it done the child any damiage. Your picked the only choice that was in the best interest for the child.

Someonehelpmi · 18/05/2018 13:04

@gilead thank you, I'm trying my hardest, it really tests you. Hope everything worked out okay.

@DiddimusStench im trying, I got legal advice and started mediation but it's taking forever and the abusive messages carry on, I really don't want to take it to court but it seems to be the only option!

@helpconfused if he doesn't apply for contact then I guess your son is better of Sad I worry about the kind of person my little one will grow up to be if he has a relationship with his father.

@PinkHeart5914 that's the only thing keeping me going at the moment! Just thinking kts all about my baby and just focus on that. I'm just thankful he's too little to know what's going on.

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BobbleHat102 · 18/05/2018 13:38

He's a wanker, end of. Best of luck to you and your dc.

Zaphodsotherhead · 18/05/2018 14:09

How could it be post natal depression when he was a total shit BEFORE you had the baby? Before you were even pregnant, I bet.

You've nothing to feel guilty about. I shouldn't think he's wasted one single moment feeling guilty about the way he behaved towards you and your baby.

misscph1973 · 18/05/2018 14:14

Postnatal depression or not, he does not have the right to treat you so badly.

TuTru · 18/05/2018 14:18

What a cunt!

LifeBeginsAtGin · 18/05/2018 14:32

Leave him and learn to make better choices.

Gilead · 18/05/2018 16:01

FFS, Gin stop being so bloody judgemental, she's asked for support.

thetriangleisarealinstrument · 18/05/2018 16:09

depression is not an excuse to abuse someone. I had PND and I could be difficult to deal with yes but I took responsibility for my behaviour and got help... he is blaming everything on you. Even if he does have PND which I highly doubt from what you have said, it is not a reason to resort to domestic violence. Please do not feel guilty, no one has the right to treat you that way and you are doing the right thing by staying away from him. You are also doing the right thing by your child to not allow contact unless the situation is safe.

I know there may be part of you that wants it to all be down to some illness in him because then it would hurt less that he treated you like shit and there might be some way to make it better.... but im afraid it doesnt work like that. Theres no excuse for how he has treated you and it just boils down to him being deeply selfish, lazy, aggressive and manipulative. No amount of compassion from you will make him change... in fact quite the opposite... he sounds like someone who would massively take advantage of any compassion shown to him and use it to control.

ConciseandNice · 18/05/2018 16:15

Depression doesn’t turn you into an abusive bastard. Depression turns you into someone with depression. Plus he was already abusive before the baby. I’ve done my time with an abuser and they are all a tick box exercise when it comes to how they treat their partners and the guilt trips they pull. Do NOT blame yourself. Stay free of him and remain emotionally secure in the knowledge you are saving both yourself and your child from a life of utter misery. Xx

melodybirds · 18/05/2018 16:20

He's trying to emotionally manipulated you but it's so blatant it's laughable. Good try... PND my arse. He is a horrible and toxic man and it's amazing you have put yourself and dc first after going through so much. Keep going forwards. He is not worth any of your thoughts.

ShinyShooney · 18/05/2018 16:39

He just sounds like a horrible person from start to finish, clearly not someone ready to be a father. You sound a bit young and in the "better to be with anyone rather than no one" mindset.

I think a fresh start and some time alone is needed.

Someonehelpmi · 19/05/2018 08:37

Thank you so much for everybody's replies, sorry I'm a bit slow!

@BobbleHat102 thank you! Little one is coming along very well now I'm back with my family, I feel a bit more confident.

@Zaphodsotherhead no he's never admitted fault about anything, not that I want him to be always doing that, just a bit of acknowledgement of what went wrong would go a long way. He was reasonably nice and caring at the beginning of pregnancy but I think he reverted back to type...

@lifebeginsatgin that's fair enough, I should have known better and have learnt the hard way. Now I have a baby that isn't even a choice, and wasn't a choice which is why I eventually left.

@thetriangleisarealinstrument yeah he took advantage throughout most of the relationship. He just can't stand that I've putmy foot down and is using my daughter as a pawn. He never asks how she is or what she's been doing, if she's feeling better etc just demands when can he see her but then never acts Sad. I don't like to think people are all bad and part of me tries to justify what he's done/doing as I loved/love him and like you said, want it to hurt alot less and think there was a reason behind it rather than him just not caring about me. I know that's not the case though and need to start processing what he's done and my feelings about it all, and hopefully live and learn.

Thank you to everyone for reminding me I need to stay strong. It's so easy to get drawn into the circle of guilt and justification. I need to keep reminding myself to be strong and try and move foward, most especially for my baby.

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yawning801 · 19/05/2018 08:46

Do you have any other children, OP? I think I've seen you posting before, and he sounds like an even bigger arse now. I'm glad everything's better now, you made the right decision taking your kids away from that fuckwit.

Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 19/05/2018 10:08

My husband had a low in mood after we had our twins. He was overwhelmed, uncommunicative, grumpy and it was very frustrating to be around. He wasn’t abusive, always looked after the children and did his bit. I also had pnd which is a horrible illness but it stil didn’t give me the right to be shitty.

vampirethriller · 19/05/2018 11:10

Don't feel guilty. You're doing the right thing. And you're very brave.

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