Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think people forget that autistic people grow into adults?

114 replies

BobblyQuim · 17/05/2018 13:28

There's so many threads on here where people's behaviour is described as odd, crazy, creepy, weird, and so on for not being as the OP or people replying would expect. Today for example, I've seen two threads were one woman was described as an oddball for putting a handbag in a plastic bag and another is an overreacting drama queen for her OTT reaction to some upset in class.

There's so much vitriol on these types of threads towards someone who has acted in an unusual way. Does anyone ever consider there may be a reason for their unusual behaviour? Like autism?

I know not everyone that gets written about on here will be autistic but statistically it's likely that some of them are. Autistic children grow into autistic adults. They are out there in all walks of life. It might be nice to bear in mind sometimes when writing someone off as weird, a drama queen, an attention seeker etc. Autistic people don't just cease to exist at aged 18.

AIBU to think that people seem to forget that?

OP posts:
HardAsSnails · 17/05/2018 20:43

NutElla did you read my posts?

Intellectually disabled autistic people die decades earlier than their non-disabled peers.

Autistic people without intellectual disabilities, and even more so if undiagnosed, are at high risk of early death from suicide as well as mental health problems and misdiagnosed mental health conditions resulting in inappropriate/dangerous medicine.

Autistic people are more likely to be epileptic than non-autistic people. Autistic people are often medicated with anti-psychotic medications. Anti-psychotic medications lower the seizure threshold.

Considering how autism is not a disease and should have no effect on lifespan, it's bloody horrifying how many autistic people die early.

Despealla · 17/05/2018 20:48

Nutella you seem to be under the impression that autistic diagnosis are given out like something on the oprah show.
you have autism and you have autism!
That is not the case, to be diagnosed with autism you have to have problems that are severe enough to cause impairment in everyday life, little sally down the road isn’t getting diagnosed with autism just because sometimes she’s shy.

People with HFA often mask in public which would give the impression that they’re just a bit eccentric “oh you don’t need a label, your just eccentric” but your only seeing a snippet of their life.

Re the asthma/autism comparison, yes it’s right there’s no magic pill, but that doesn’t mean diagnosis isn’t important, their are therapies, coping strategies etc as well as extra help at school, and when older protection in workplace etc access to charities as well as various other things that open up with a diagnosis which is important and helpful as well as just being able to understand yourself and why you do or don’t do some of the things you do.

Farmer1 · 17/05/2018 20:53

We are encouraged to be normal in this life. Look around you. Define ‘normal’.

boatass · 17/05/2018 20:55

I’m sick of someone not being able to fart without the cause possibility being autism on Mn.

NutElla5x · 17/05/2018 20:56

Hardasnails that is interesting and of course very worrying.

ragged · 17/05/2018 21:01

I agree with OP.
As happened here, often story told about odd maybe somewhat creepy adult. If I suggest find some compassion b/c the adult could have SN or autism, I get shouted down as being horrible about autistic or SN people and perpetuating stereotypes about them. Just... irk.

I know some very odd people who have been labeled creepy but I'm sure have something like ASD (and they are kind generous harmless souls). My uncle was a very charming talented man but still probably had ASD; ASD-folk can be charmers... I also know creeps who are basically creeps.. .yet often b/c they were abused themselves as children, they are victims too. A little compassion goes a long way. I wish compassion were more fashionable.

InspMorse · 17/05/2018 21:01

As someone said upthread - there are many many undiagnosed adults with Autism.
Unfortunately, people do not always empathise in the same way as they do towards children with a diagnosis.
ASD adults also might not have day to day parental/caree support. The world can be a cruel/frightening place.

NutElla5x · 17/05/2018 21:05

Despealla because so many people seem to have it all of a sudden it does 'seem' that way yes.It's almost as if it's taken over from ADSD as the new in thing to have.

zzzzz · 17/05/2018 21:06

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

zzzzz · 17/05/2018 21:14

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 17/05/2018 21:15

I'm currently undergoing an assessment for autism.

Jonbb · 17/05/2018 21:18

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Despealla · 17/05/2018 21:22

Urgh your being goady as fuck but let’s see why people seem to have it “all of s sudden” ecould it be
A) Better diagnosising and medical professionals havinge more of an understand of autism then 10,20, world years ago, instead of strange children being kept in houses of mental institutes on the extreme end or just being passed off as weird or mad on the less extreme end and not getting the help they need, they’re now getting diagnosed and receiving the help they need.
Previously a lot of women with hfa were misdiagnosed or not diagnosed at all, now there is a far better understanding of autism and how it presents in women.

B) An increase in autistic charities raising awareness and people being more open to expressing their diagnosis and not hiding it as the world starts embracing mental health, hidden disabilities and people outside of the “norm” more so people aren’t afraid to speak up about it anymore. Also on an Internet forum, realistically your always going to see more autistic people on it compared to real life, for lots including me it’s the easiest way to communicate with people vs in life.

C) that it’s the new trendy thing to have and getting a diagnosis is the easiest thing in the world and anyone can get one if they fancy it.

Darling why have a Gucci bag when you can be autistic, it’s the latest trend don’t you know! Forget jake Paul or fidget spinners, the in trend these days is having a melt down from sensory overload, so vogue right now.

Hint it’s not c Hmm

IsMyUserNameRubbish · 17/05/2018 21:23

Yes I agree, we're quick to judge. My grandson is two and a half and showing autistic traits, he'll be studied now till a diagnosis can be made roughly between four and seven. He can't speak at all yet, walks on his toes a lot, jumps up and down and doesn't act as he's suppose to in social situations, so yes now I look at him and when he shouts because he can't talk, my heart bleeds for him in an uncaring world he's about to grow up in. He's got good support though, both NHS and his loving family that love him so much and will move heaven and earth to give him everything he needs, so yes we shouldn't be so quick to comment or judge.

InspMorse · 17/05/2018 21:35

Deadherring
Yes to everything you said.

NutElla5x · 17/05/2018 21:39

Despealla You're quite happily calling me names,but what if I am someone who is suffering from undiagnosed autism.It's quite possible you know,and yet here you are happily slagging me off when all I'm actually trying to do is learn.

Despealla · 17/05/2018 21:45

I’m calling you a goady fucked because that is how you are acting and I’d call you that even if you were autistic and having this conversation.

Your saying that autism is on the rise, on trend and that “labels” will hold these people back? Your implying that without their diagnosis people would just crack on, put some effort in and not be autistic ? You don’t see how that’s offensive and how your being completely stupid?

Despealla · 17/05/2018 21:49

This is learning is it?

Why must we put a label on everything?It seems like every man and his wife is autistic these days

i'm just wondering how helpful it is to slap labels on people.I would worry that it might hold them back.

Stop being so fucking defensive.I just worry that so many kids are being diagnosed that I wonder if they are being misdiagnosed and how helpul that would be for them.

because so many people seem to have it all of a sudden it does 'seem' that way yes.It's almost as if it's taken over from ADSD as the new in thing to have.

So much learning, so much listening to autistic people talking to you on here Hmm. I wonder why autistic people on this thread are getting defensive at a goady fucker keep saying that if people weren’t diagnosed they’d just crack on with nothing to hold them back, it’s a mystery to me Confused

NutElla5x · 17/05/2018 21:57

Rude.And you wonder why mumsnet has such a bad rep.

Despealla · 17/05/2018 21:58

And your just angels and a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day, with your disabalist nonsense.

IsMyUserNameRubbish · 17/05/2018 22:02

Desperella, and you're just plain nasty. Let's hope people who do have a disability never have to cross your path.

Despealla · 17/05/2018 22:05

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

NutElla5x · 17/05/2018 22:05

Disabalist LOL.If I'm a disabalist then you're a racist if we're gonna start getting silly.

helforddreams · 17/05/2018 22:07

OP, as the mother of three sons with autism who are now in their mid to late 20s, thank you for realising this. Their adulthood is so much harder than their childhood years, almost all due to the fact society "expects" them to conform into a world they cannot. Again, thank you for understanding what most do not!

FissionChips · 17/05/2018 22:07

Desperella isn’t being nasty, she’s responding appropriately to a goady fucker.

Swipe left for the next trending thread