AIBU copy and paste journalism

[TheWomblerReturns]

I'm SO angry at what happened today. However without making this a TAAT

Copy and paste journalism will continue

Is there any way we can make our threads safer ourselves? Can I write copyright at the end of a post and avoid a journalist bitch lifting?

Please share ideas.

Copyright. TheWomblerReturns. 2018

Just write fuck off daily mail etc at the start, they tend to screenshot entire posts so they won't be able to do that if it's dropped in the middle of a sentence or whatever. I usually hate it when posters do this but I reckon it'd be a deterrent.

Fuck off DM/Sun and so on

www.google.com/search?q=mumsnet&safe=strict&client=ms-android-samsung&tbm=nws&prmd=nsiv&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix8pGxxorbAhWkCsAKHTuJDJcQpwUIFg&biw=360&bih=616&dpr=3

Most recent Google search for Mumsnet News brought up this.

It’s got to the point that pretty much any reasonably interesting thread ends up in the tabloids.

I’m surprised anyone starts threads any more.

I tend to hope that people change key details to protect themselves.

Swearing does't stop them from publishing a screen shot, they just blank the DM attack.

They used a quote from one of the posters once (probably several times), but as the user name was in the lign of "FuckOffDailyMail" they just referred to her as a "poster.

The journalist today is a fashion and lifestyle "journo"

I feel like she has done it deliberately as she could have stuck to her usual

I really don't get what people's problem is. Mumsnet is a public website just like the Daily Mail is a public website. They're perfectly entitled to take stories from here, just as they would from Facebook or Twitter etc. If being featured in a DM article could endanger a poster, surely they're just as endangered from posting on mumsnet.

@CalF123 they are to an extent. But they're also just posters looking for support and advice. Often vulnerable ones not thinking clearly.

Not journalists. Not people who make a living from it and should shoulder the responsibility for ethical behaviour in their "work"

Maybe @MNHQ could include a warning "please post responsibly and change any identifying information for your security" type message that pops up when you click to start a thread?

I think some posters really do think, especially new ones that they're only posting to other mums

maybe there should be a warning to anyone who starts paying for an internet connection.

Why would anyone think MN is a "safe" bubble is beyond me. Can you access the site without any check? Of course you can, so anyone else can. Do you need anything else than a random email address to start posting? No, so no-one else does.

Mind boggles sometimes.

Yeah @ikeepaforkinmypurse but again, if your not in the best frame of mind and desperate for ears and advice... you can be stupid or even mind boggling, clearly

but still able to find the forum and post on it?

It reminds me of a colleague who was flabbergasted to be sacked following a story about his work emails. He thought they were "private". You really cannot help some people.

Yeah... there's stupid

There's also suicidal, bereaved, lonely and so on that makes people just not think.

@Fuckoffcopypastebellendjournos
Yeah... there's stupid
There's also suicidal, bereaved, lonely and so on that makes people just not think.

Well said.

The site is about information and support. Sure...if you've been around long enough, and use the site for fun then you know that the DM will lift stories. But people in need of help and advice aren't thinking about journalists when they post. They're after help.

There was a solicitor who took the time to explain in detail the legalese of this. Try searching the archives. Basically you own only the small post you write. Mumsnet owns the entire thread. It’s very complicated and basically no, not worth pursuing in courts. Unless you and every other poster on the thread collectively sue the Daily Mail

Will posters stop linking to the DM or any other published media site ? The answer to that is no - don't say its different because it isn't, there is a comments page which is free to be copied, at the bottom of every article, their posters aren't claiming 'copyright'.

To be fair - not my usual source of reading - but I've only ever seen the plain ridiculous threads end up as media fodder (penis beaker et al) never an emotional thread.

IF the MN owner are going to hob nob with politicians and are journos themselves, they are laughing all the way to the bank - it raises their profile, gets them invited to more parties, gets them on more advisory committees and so forth. MN is quite a large media influencer in its own right.

Thing is I still think MN has a place and use and want to use it, as so many others clearly

I'm not happy with MN but at least they delete threads and posts etc

Today wasn't funny

Even the big reputable news sources seen to think that reporting the bare bones of what's happening then 'heres what some randoms on Twitter said about it' counts as journalism.

There's no way to do anything you post online being copied/shared/used in ways you don't want. It's crap, but at the end of the day its all the people who will happily lap up the daily mails regurgitated shite that are making it profitable to do this.

Can’t stop it, but would it also make any difference if journos were stopped? Every thread has a share button for social media on it, I’ve seen screen shorted posts on twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit.
Even threads after they are deleted are sometimes accessible via waybackmachine and other archiving sites.

Mumsnet has supportive threads, but it’s business model is build around being shared, increasing signups and eyes on the pages etc, no such thing as privacy on the net.

Maybe MN should come up with something then...

MN's posters are often very vulnerable

Maybe they should make it so only certain topics are shareable? Or warn posters as I said in a pop up?

Tbh I posted as I don't have the answer but think there should be an answer before something tragic occurs

Well I never... the Sun had some standards and removed the story, never thought I'd say the sun had standards!

Did you ask them to remove it @TheWomblerReturns ? I’m so happy for you if you did, but equally gobsmacked by their ‘standards’!

Yes I did.