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Kids stealing food - AIBU

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LolaLouise · 12/05/2018 11:15

Long time lurker, first time poster, please be gentle!

Ive posted this else where and was met with some very mixed replies, im wondering your thoughts.

I have 3 children, 15, 11, and 9, and im having issues with my eldest stealing food. My other two never take more than what is allowed by the house hold rules. He is given 3 meals per day. Every day. There are always snack foods available to him some fruits, cereal, toast, sandwiches, a few snacky bits, cake bars and such, theres also stuff in the freezer he can cook if he really wanted to but he never does, and other "crap" foods teens like as they are easy, supernoodles etc. He can take these as often as he wishes but not while m standing there cooking a meal. We have fizzy drinks available but these are limited to one glass per day, theres always cordial, hot drinks if he wants them, milk too. At the weekend he is given money to buy his lunch where he wishes and any snacks he wants. I also, one night a week let all three have a treat. So that could be a tub of ben a jerrys sized ice cream, which i encourage them to eat over the week, rather than in one go, or a bag of popcorn, what they want within reason. They lead active outdoorsy lifestyles. My 15 year old is always on the skate park, he will skate to the next city over with friends at the weekend to go to a better skatepark. None are over weight or unhealthy, they get lots of balanced freshly made meals - my partner is a chef so most is cooked from scratch. He has lots of freedom, lots of options with what he eats etc.

The only restrictions based on food are - i buy lunch box foods on a weekend for the entire week. I buy what we need, so one item of each thing for each child. So there'll be 15 of each items there in a tub that is just for lunches. All three children are aware what is for lunches and that this is off limits. Any extra, are placed into a different tub in the cupboard - these are allowed to be eaten though there arent many in there, its often empty as i try to buy pretty much what we need, as they are getting one per day. Its specifically food in one tub ive counted out though that is off limits. - Food that belongs to another person. So if one child eats all their ice cream, and another has half left, that ice cream is theres. - Food that is gifts, so easter eggs, selection boxes, birthday treats, party bag sweets etc etc. If that food was gifted to a child, its theres, not a free for all. They are the only restrictions.

My 15 year old takes EVERYTHING, his siblings easter eggs, he took 10 extra lunchbox items - in fact the reason i buy only what we need is because once over 40 chocolate biscuits went missing in 3 days and id bought a load whilst on offer. Any time theres ice cream. He doesnt just sneak a few, he will take whole boxes, he took an unopened pack of matchmakers his sibling got for christmas. Literally, anything and everything, he will take, with no consideration for who it belongs to. He takes it in the middle of the night when sleeping, or, on occasions i have to leave to drop the other two at primary before he leaves and he will take it them.

I have made food available for him, foods he has specifically asked for and chosen. I understand he is a teen and gets ravenous easily. But if this were hunger related, he would be reaching for a mixing bowl sized portion of cereal, not a cake bar. If its about sweet stuff, theres always nutella for toast or sandwiches, or again, cereal, to get the sugar fix. Its just, imo, greed. I punish him for it. Grounding generally as is life is skating, but removal of consoles, internet, extra jobs have all been tried. Ive spoken to him, at length, about why he takes them, and i just get met with i dont know, i cant help it, i try not to but i cant stop it. Hes even been in counselling for his impulsive behaviours but he wont participate so its pointless. Ive cried at him, i have been unemployed and money has been tight, when he took all the lunch stuff i literally couldnt replace them that week, i told him this, i was upfront and honest with him, and the next day he took more.

I dont think im being strict, i think giving him open access to snack type foods in the house, with a few restrictions, is pretty fair. Ive tried everything i can think of, but im just being told he is rebelling against tight rules, but i dont see how my rules are restrictive. Im not starving him, im not limiting his intake of food, i give him choice, i give him money to buy extra. Foods are of all kinds, they dont have he same boring meals every night, once a week he has his favourite pepperoni pizza. If he misses a meal time due to wanting to go out his tea is left to be reheated or when he gets home - though i do insist he is home for other meals where everyone is in.

Do you agree i have caused these issues by being controlling?

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LolaLouise · 12/05/2018 20:07

I tried that and he took all of them. It mist have been close to 40 cake bars as they were all reduced and had a good month left on them and they all vanished. Thats why i stopped buying plenty and introduced two tubs. One that held the right amount for lunches, another for the surplus

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Lethaldrizzle · 12/05/2018 20:09

Can't they eat school meals. Thst eradicates the need for pack lunches.

LolaLouise · 12/05/2018 20:09

I cant afford school dinners atm

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swirlyorangecarpets · 12/05/2018 21:12

We had a similar issue with 'treat' foods, even down to gift foods, advent calendars, Easter eggs etc being taken by our eldest child. There wasn't one root cause in our case - it was just selfishness, lack of empathy and seriously disordered eating. It's all very well having sandwiches and fruit available, but in our case our child just preferred to eat junk. Unfortunately she still does - even at 19, she lives almost entirely on high sugar junk foods.

The stealing from siblings needs to be dealt with by replacing the items from his own pocket, whether that means removing his lunch money at weekends when needed or pocket money. It's theft.

The taking of lunch stuff is tough. We had a long period of time where we kept the sorts of foods she'd take in the boot of the car, and we'd dole them out fairly each day. I recognise that's ridiculous and is far from ideal but reasoning, begging, consequences just didn't work, and it was unfair on the younger kids to continually miss out.

missymayhemsmum · 12/05/2018 21:24

It sounds as though he's a compulsive eater.
In which case illicit food calls to you more than 'allowed' food. Instant food more than food to be cooked.

You know you shouldn't but you eat it anyway, even if you aren't hungry
It's about anger and emotion more than hunger, so if he's feeling anxious and upset and not noticed and unsettled (like a 15 year old boy who hasn't seen his dad for over and a year but is having to get used to mum's new partner) the eating will take over. Pissing everybody off is just a bonus as it reinforces the feelings. He's telling the truth, he can't help it.
You need to recognise this as an addictive behaviour, and find ways not to put temptation in his way (ie leaving a lonely teenage compulsive eater alone in the house with a fridge full of snacks and chocolate) find other ways for him to manage his feelings, and get him some help.

(when I was 15 I ate all the ingredients for a christmas cake by the time my mum came home from work, and couldn't have told you why, except that they were in the cupboard).

Hellywelly10 · 12/05/2018 21:31

Teenagers eat loads and loads. I really dont like the idea of stealing food or putting locks on food cupboards. However eating others packed lunches sounds annoying.

LolaLouise · 12/05/2018 21:38

As i previously pointed out. This behaviour has happened long before any issues with me and his dad separating. He first took food at 3 - and entire cucumber went missing and i thought i was going mental then i found the wrapper in his bed. One night a family member called in panic as his wee was bright pink and it turned out hed taken all the beetroot from her fridge. I ended up putting alarms on the doors as we lived in a flat and his room faced the kitchen. He has always done this, his whole life, i have tried over the years and excised his behaviour as him being a kid but at 15 we need to put and end to it

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LolaLouise · 12/05/2018 21:40

Previous post was in response to someone suggesting this is a result of not seeing his dad etc. It really isnt.

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PorkFlute · 12/05/2018 21:49

Gosh that is a lot. Is he definitely eating it all if he has no weight issue - is he maybe sharing it out or even selling them or something?
It is odd that he’s persisting even when he’s grounded and plenty of other stuff is available.
I would probably just not have treats in the house at all and treat the kids to treats occasionally when out.

SundayGirls · 12/05/2018 21:55

Can't help feeling this has nothing to do with food and everything to do with wanting to attract your attention. (rightly or wrongly).

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