To think while it’s hugely important to talk about male suicide **TRIGGER WARNING**

[LittleMissCwtch]

Female suicide is important to talk about too?

Don’t get me wrong I’m glad it’s being spoken about and we need more awareness, and I know the statistics show it affects males hugely. I’m not saying we shouldn’t raise awareness.

However as a female with mental health issues and personal experience of suicidal thoughts, I feel it could be talked about more generally anyway.

I know men find it more difficult to open up and talk about it, but so do women.

It’s just with recent storylines (I don’t watch the soaps but have heard about them, and think it’s a good idea to raise awareness) I think it’s just as important to raise awareness in general.

I won’t knock anything that raises awareness as I say, but women need support too. There is some support groups for men (Andy mans club being one) and that’s great, and I have no problem, but I would go to a specific support group but as far as I know there aren’t any specific ones? I’m happy to be corrected on that though?

I agree that mental health generally should always be up for discussion, but men face very specific problems in this area. Men are much less likely to seek help, to talk about their mental health, and to undergo treatment. Patriarchy discourages men from caring for their mental health.

I know that your post is well-meaning but it's like men who bring up the issue of male rape in a discussion about female rape; it's derailing this specific conversation. Of course women's mental health is hugely important and needs to be discussed, but not at the expense of addressing the specific and monumental problems facing men in this area.

Statistically men at at least 3 times as likely to commit suicide and part of the reason behind that is a lack of willingness to talk about their struggles.

Obviously women and suicide is an important topic as well, but there probably isn’t such a correlation with an unwillingness to admit depression as there are with men.

So yeah, given it’s significantly more likely that a man commits suicide because they haven’t been prepared to talk about it, I think YABU. Let them have this one without making it a Male vs Female thing. That’s the real message here “please talk about it” and it’s the men that need to take that message on board.

Someone said that there are more male suicides because they are are more effective at the task . They manage to follow through - maybe because they don’t have the same deep familial biological ties we women have ? I found that very interesting

Either way the statistics are bearing out that they do seem to carry through more than us.

It’s very sad and i can get gendered about a focus on it to be honest

I’m honestly not trying to turn it into a gendered thing, and I have no problem with people referring to male suicide. I’m well aware the rates are a lot higher.

I just feel suicide and mental health (male and female) should be talked about more.

I get that . I suppose it’s a health problem
(Death from Mental illness) that significantly affects one gender more than another .

But I also believe that (some) women struggle on as they can’t contemplate leaving their families behind

That said look at homelessness - we can see a clear gender divide there too can’t we

I know that when I get depressed I address it . For the sake of my kids . Men for some reason sometimes don’t .

Apparently more women attempt suicide than men, but men tend to choose more lethal methods (hanging, jumping off/in front of stuff) whereas women tend to take overdoses, which gives them time to reconsider.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/more-women-than-men-attempt-suicide-x6c7xhrv6t8

Ah that’s what my colleague said

In brutal terms they are ‘more effective’ in it

God what to make of that

There's some interesting stuff on suicide here:

www.suicideresearch.info

@havanagilahava

Apparently more women attempt suicide than men, but men tend to choose more lethal methods (hanging, jumping off/in front of stuff) whereas women tend to take overdoses, which gives them time to reconsider.

This. Also we've managed to reduce access to/eliminate some methods used more commonly by women - ie changes to the gas supply and restrictions on sale of paracetamol.

The OP is not being completely unreasonable though. Mental health in general needs to be addressed and mental health services desperately need to be properly funded.

Seems it's not hit the radar though it's on BBC news. The lead singer of a Frightened Rabbits body was discovered today. Another make suicide. We need to talk suicide in general.