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6m out of catchment, school has places, been informally refused, wtf??

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Furiousaboutinstarubbish · 11/05/2018 10:27

Moving to my partners house in a few months. Contacted his local primary, where his kids go, and was told 'informally' that cause he is out of catchment (by 6m)that my kids would not get in!! Atm there is a space in year 2!! Just can't believe it. Is this allowed??

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Furiousaboutinstarubbish · 11/05/2018 10:27

That's 6 meters, not 6 miles!!

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HoneyBadgerApparently · 11/05/2018 10:33

If you get married it comes under siblings rule i think but not sure otherwise...
How petty of them!

User12879923378 · 11/05/2018 10:34

Are you the only people looking for the place? If you are I am not sure how they can say no

adviceonthepox · 11/05/2018 10:35

Speak to la they decide not the school

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 11/05/2018 10:37

siblings rule no longer applies in some counties, it's catchment first.

You should be able to have your child on the waiting list, but yes, they don't have to give him priority.

Furiousaboutinstarubbish · 11/05/2018 10:38

It's a small school and I think dps ex may have had a word,, both our sons will be in the same year, is it possible they don't want us?

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soapboxqueen · 11/05/2018 10:41

If they have a space, they can't refuse a child all things being equal. However, they can't keep a space open for you until you move.

Contact your LEA

meditrina · 11/05/2018 10:41

If there is a space in year 2, and no waiting list, then it must be given to anyone who applies for it. But you do then have to take up the place.

Are you actually ready to move schools?

Or are you after a place in September? In which case, a vacancy now isn't going to be kept for you. It may or may not still have a vacancy in September. But they cannot hold back a space for 3/4 term because someone might be moving in a few months.

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 11/05/2018 10:44

It's completely possible to refuse a child if there's no space, especially if he's out of catchment.

now if they have only 29 kids in the class, it is strange that they could refuse. If you are talking about next year - from September - it's very likely that they can't make a decision just yet and are shuffling the leaver and waiting lists and so on.

If they refuse a space when there's an empty one, you can easily appeal.

TeenTimesTwo · 11/05/2018 10:45

As others have said, if there is a space in your year group and no waiting list they must give it to you, even if you live 30 miles away, provided you can get your child there.
It might be that the person you spoke to at the school doesn't understand admission rules and process properly.
You normally have to take a place up within 4 weeks or so, so you can't ask them to keep a place until Christmas.

Tagging @prh47bridge and @admission .

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 11/05/2018 10:45

It's also a good point that if you haven't got proof of your address right now, they can't do anything. You have to move before you can apply.

swingofthings · 11/05/2018 10:47

Went through exactly the same thing when I moved with my OH 8 years ago. Although not 6m away, we were more than a mile away from the catchment boundaries and as it's a massive school, I was told that there would no problem as all the kids in our area went to that school. We were turned down and offered a school totally in the opposite direction which has just been inspected by Ofsted and deemed inadequate.

What happened is that the other school had been facing issues for a few years. As a result, parents in the catchment area of that school had worked out that if they put their kids for the infant school of our local area, they would get priority getting a place in the local senior school, which had been rated by ofted as Excellent. As there were three feeder schools, getting a place in the infant school wasn't a problem. As a result, anyone moving into the area, even in front of the senior school found that they couldn't get a place, whilst a larger number of pupils travelled every day from miles away.

I was horrified at the idea of sending my kids to the other school, especially as they came from an excellent school, but we were advised to visit it as the pupils and teachers were lovely and the issue was with management. We did so and loved the school. We were met by the new Head Teacher who seemed excellent.

My kids moved there and they couldn't have received better schooling. The Head turned the school around and my kids achieved very highly. The irony is that the Head of the school left shortly afterwards and the school took a massive tumbling down. 3 years later, why my DS moved to secondary, his school was rated as good whilst the 'Excellent' school was put under remedial measures! It really shows how things can turn around very quickly and in the end, I'm delighted that my kids didn't get a place there even though the logistics to drop them/pick them up was a nightmare.

Furiousaboutinstarubbish · 11/05/2018 10:52

Great to hear a positive story and thanks all for advice Flowers

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eddiemairswife · 11/05/2018 10:56

If there is a space then they have to give it to you wherever in the country you live, but your child must start within a couple of weeks of the place being allocated.

rainingcatsanddog · 11/05/2018 10:57

Do you want the space now or in a few months?

If you want it now, they have to give it to you (assuming that you can get them to the new school)

If you want it for September (for example), they won't process your application yet as you haven't got proof of (new) address.

If there's one spot free in y2, someone on the waiting list or wanting to start before you would get it above you,

HellenaHandbasket · 11/05/2018 10:58

It will be admissions in the main who will make this decision. They will not consider it until you are resident there, and will see if the space is still there then.

Birdsgottafly · 11/05/2018 11:03

"It's a small school and I think dps ex may have had a word,, both our sons will be in the same year, is it possible they don't want us?"

No, because it isn't the school that gets to allocate the place.

If you are so paranoid about his Ex, should your children go to the same school as her children?

prh47bridge · 11/05/2018 12:24

Answering the call from TeenTimesTwo.

As TeenTimesTwo and others have said, if they have a place available they must offer it to you regardless of where you live. That is the law. You could live hundreds of miles away and they would still have to offer you the place.

The main risk you have is that the place may be filled before you move since you say the move will be in a few months. If you can take up the place within the next few weeks you should apply formally for a place immediately. If it will be longer than that you will have to hope that no-one else applies in the interim.

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