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AIBU?

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Original poster

To move NDN's bins off my land

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rshipnchanger · 10/05/2018 14:24

I've asked him several times not to put his bin on my land at the front. It's concrete so difficult to put in a fence.

Last time I moved his bin he came and had a right go at me for trespassing, I can just about access my land on my property but much easier using his drive.

So AIBU to move it again by a meter? I can do it with a long stick from my land if going on his is unacceptable. I'm worried about encroachment and him using my land as if it's his.

OP posts:

hazell42 · 10/05/2018 15:15

Really?
I don't know how often you have your bins collected. Where I am it's every 2 weeks.
You have a concrete driveway so he is not damaging your land in anyway by putting his bin on there for a couple of hours.
Can you not be a good neighbour and just let him get on with it? Does it impact your life in anyway at all to have an extra bin at the bottom of your drive?
Good neighbour relations are really important. Neighbour feuds over bin access are ludicrous.
Try to be generous. Unless he is dumping rubbish on your drive, or doing something that harms you or your family, why not try to just live and let live?
Don't you feel just a little bit silly?

dayinlifeof · 10/05/2018 15:16

Put his bins back and then carefully apply itching powder to the handles?

Singlenotsingle · 10/05/2018 15:19

Why can't his bins go on his side of the boundary?

Pannalash · 10/05/2018 15:21

Mountain

‘move his buns every time off your land. I’d go on his land to pull them off’

Crikey that’s taking it a bit far

lalaloopyhead · 10/05/2018 15:24

Ok, i really don't understand how people are not understanding OP's situation here (unless I have got it wrong of course).

Op only needs to go on ndn property to move his bins back (rather than squeeze down side of house). NDN keeps his bins their permanently, not just when the bins are being collected.

Basically ndn is appropriating the land because OP can't easily access it.

If it bothers you OP, and tbh I think it would me on principle, you need to look at getting something to separate your boundaries entirely.

steppemum · 10/05/2018 15:30

well, if his bins are on your land, then you have every right to either return them, or to move them off your land onto the pavement/road/ditch.
if he complains about you moving them onto the pavement, politely say - well you said I couldn't go on your land to return them to you!

He has no right to put his bins there. I would actually just move them over so they are against his house, and put a note through the door - please do not put your bins on my land.

Definitely look at getting the boundary defined though, painted blocks/stones

BadTasteFlump · 10/05/2018 15:30

So when he 'had a right go' at you for trespassing, did you politely tell him he was trespassing by putting his bins on your land? If it's not part of your garden you regularly access or use, fence it off or stand some big heavy planters there.

picklemepopcorn · 10/05/2018 15:44

So, does he leave them there waiting to be emptied, or is that where he keeps them?

MountainHedgehog · 10/05/2018 20:50

@pannalash really should MN whilst concentrating!

@lalaloopyhead I agree. Neighbour is storing bins on her land 24/7. She only needs his land to pull his bins back.

Why should she be a good neighbour and let him store his bins on her land?

Sorry you're getting a rough ride OP for people not looking at your diagram and understanding.

MountainHedgehog · 10/05/2018 20:52

@hazell42 the diagram shows that he's storing his bins down the side of her house on her land, not just on bin day. Why should she let him??

shakingmyhead1 · 11/05/2018 05:23

you need to make a clear definition between yours and his and also have some sort of fence built, or he can if he has access to it and uninterrupted usage can in some cases apply for an easement or something and if he sells and the new buyers assume that is theirs or he tells them it is or tells them hes allowed to use that space you could have a fight on your hands... as a PP said USE IT OR LOSE IT... cut or trim the edge of your hedge and make some sort of barrier, be it a line of concreted in blocks or a line of plant pots and a sign saying keep off but make something that makes it clear that it is yours and hes not to use it

Fishface77 · 11/05/2018 05:31

I would drag them as far down the road as I could and leave them.
Rinse and repeat.

ChasedByBees · 11/05/2018 05:39

Did you not tell him he’s trespassing also using your land and you were just returning his bins? I would put large planters on my boundary and if real plants won’t survive, something like fake box balls. I’d fill it with rocks too so it’s hard to move (and you may need to chain the fake box balls in).

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2018 05:51

Paint a line along the boundary. Put a note through his letterbox stating his bins are to remain on his side from now on.

AJPTaylor · 11/05/2018 05:58

In that case just move his bins to the pavement witout accessing his land.

MissDuke · 11/05/2018 06:12

I found the op confusing but may or may not be understanding this now. Our neighbour reverses his large car right down the side of his house in his own drive. We have a very slim strip of path running down the side of our house and adjacent to his drive. There are the remains of fence posts and our bit has a different type of ground. There is also a gate through to our back there but we have never used it, we use the other side which is much wider. We have literally no use for this strip of land, and if dn wanted to store his bins there, or wheel them along it to get by his car on bin day, I really couldn't care less. I wouldn't even see them there. Bins would just about fit on it, it is that narrow. OP mentions having to be slim to walk down her bit so I assume it is similar.

I don't know if this is definitely the same set up, it certainly looks it in the diagram, if it is then I personally think the op is being a bit petty and causing a neighbour row over nothing. However it is of course op's right to have this strip of land for her own use and if she has a need for it, then of course she should go ahead and use it as she wishes. I honestly cannot imagine why anyone be so petty as to pay to put planters up etc on a piece of land that is of no use to the op and she cannot actually see anyway.

LeeLooDallasMultiPass · 11/05/2018 06:23

I cannot believe the responses on here.

It is her land, just because she isn't filling every square inch of it doesn't mean someone else gets to use it. I have access down both sides of my house but only use 1, does that mean other people should start using it for storage?

Move his bin to the pavement every time he does it. Do not politely put his bins on his property for him. You clearly have a cheeky fucker, so make his life harder re his bins so he doesn't think oh I'll just put them back.

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean he can use it.

WeAreEternal · 11/05/2018 06:28

The OP means that she has to go onto his land to move his bins off her land, from the looks of the diaphragm it’s a small space between the houses, and he’s choosing to put his bins against the OP’s side of the space.
Meaning the bins are blocking her access so she has no option but to step on his land to move them.

OP, you can get brackets that you screw into concrete that hold fence posts, it’s actually easier than putting a fence into earth.
like this one on amazon

Midthreademergencynamechange · 11/05/2018 06:29

Not a great diagram

BoomBoomsCousin · 11/05/2018 06:45

Is it possible, instead of going on his land to move his bins onto your, to stay on your land and just push them over onto his land so they land on their sides? Then you can kick them further over your property line without going onto his at all.

That kind of escalates things though, so don't do that unless you want to escalate. Ignore his ranting at you for trespassing. Just move his bins (to the pavement is ideal) everytime he leaves them on your land and shrug if he rants about you trespassing. He's trying it on.

TheMaddHugger · 11/05/2018 06:49

I swear I've seen this set up/ diagram before. Exactly the same.

Op Is this home a recent purchase/rental? Did you inherit someone else's problem ?

Mia184 · 11/05/2018 07:04

Can‘t you put some big potted plants in the area your neighbor likes to use for his garbage bins?

SoupDragon · 11/05/2018 07:05

Remove a bit at the top of the hedge and store your own bins there. If you can’t access the bit of land without going on his is useless surely?

TERFragetteCity · 11/05/2018 07:16

'Hi, where have my bins gone'
'what do you mean?'
'The bins'
'where were they?'
'On your land'
'Oh those, I didn't know whose they were so I took them for a walk'
'Where?'
'I really can't remember now. All different places. I am sure they are having a lovely time'
'$^&% *@£$£'
'Just kidding, they are in my garage. If you put them on my drive again, as I cannot come onto your land to put them back, you leave me with no alternative than to take them elsewhere.'

MrsExpo · 11/05/2018 07:36

Had a similar issue in a previous house. As as short term solution, we clearly marked the boundary with a double height row of breeze blocks forming a low wall and cemented to the concrete and placed so their edges formed our boundary (ie the blocks were on our land). We eventually put up a fence, but the neighbours were seriously p’d off as this narrowed access to their garage. They had been assuming they could just use the space. I think you need to do similar OP even if this means chopping the hedge down so you can access the space from your side.

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