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WWYD Bus took a detour

163 replies

SandyY2K · 09/05/2018 00:42

I was just wondering WWYD in this situation. Just seeing if it's the same as my thought process.

DD was coming home on the bus, when the driver took a wrong turn. There was no diversion of any sort. He said absolutely nothing to the passengers by way of an explanation or apology and got himself back on route by turning round. DD got the reg number when she got off.

Unfortunately this caused a massive delay as the bus then got stuck in traffic...resulting in DD being late /missing a private lesson, which the tutor (not unreasonably) wanted payment for.

For clarity, I have no issue with the tutor and she's been paid.

WWYD in relation to the bus detour?

OP posts:
FeckinCrunchiesInTheCar · 09/05/2018 02:50

Are you looking for money?
Or the driver to be sacked?

What the big problem?

Tinkety · 09/05/2018 02:53

He said it would be investigated.. it's not the first time it's happened or similar things to that.

He told me what normally happens to the driver in such incidents.

Enough time was allowed for the journey. His error added @ 40 minutes to the journey and she only had 2 more stops to go.

I don’t think your BIL can tell you what “normally” happens in these situations since:

  1. There are multiple bus companies & different companies have different procedures
  1. We don’t know what the actual “incident” was, the bus driver could have taken a wrong turn for any number of reasons - he could be a new driver, he could be new to the route (they are usually lenient in these cases as mistakes happen & it’s fricking expensive to train people to get a D licence) or for all we know it might not have been the drivers fault at all, it could have been the controller’s first day & he may have mistakenly given the driver wrong instructions.

Anyway a 40 minute delay would result in the bus being turned & the lost mileage recorded, there wouldn’t need to be an investigation as the company will already be aware of it since all mileage has to be recorded & accounted for, there would also be controller & driver logs with explanations for the lost mileage so the bus company would just look them up.

Buses can’t just disappear for 40 mins without the powers that be knowing so about it so wouldn’t worry about “informing” on anyone

Tinkety · 09/05/2018 04:48

So what would happen to drivers in these circumstances?

Hard to say as we don’t know the exact details of the situation, it may not even be the drivers fault at all & down to the controller - I know of one instance where a controller mistakenly announced a diversion & although he corrected himself 30 secs later, a bus had already gone the wrong way (admittedly this is rare though).

The most likely situation is that it’s a brand new driver or a driver new to the route in which case the worst they’ll get is a rollicking from the duty manager - one wrong turn is not going to get them a disciplinary or sacked as long as they safely corrected their mistake which it sounds like the driver did in this case. Also drivers are not given adequate time to route learn during training (drivers are basically expected to learn in their own time) so this will be taken into consideration as well. It also costs thousands to train drivers for a D licence so bus companies aren’t going to sack you for minor reasons.

I’ve known rookie drivers who have gone the wrong way & ended up in worse situations then the one in the OP, there have been buses stuck in fields & had to be towed out, buses going the wrong way down a one way street & causing traffic jams & even one who mistakenly went down a narrow lane in a double decker & ended up stuck as he couldn’t reverse due to the traffic behind nor could he go any further due to a low bridge (the traffic police had to be called to help clear that one!) & they all kept their jobs.

In the grand scheme of things one wrong turn for a new driver isn’t that big of a deal especially as it didn’t cause an “incident” i.e no damage to the bus, no outside agencies needed to be called etc. From the OP it sounds like the driver spotted his mistake almost straight away & took corrective action instantly to get back on his route, the fact that there was traffic on the detour which caused a delay is unfortunate but it’s not like the driver was driving around aimlessly lost for 40 minutes which would be more serious.

If on the other hand, it was an experienced driver on his usual route & he/she couldn’t provide a satisfactory reason for the wrong turn then they could be looking at a warning, extra training or possibly dismissal (if they already have a number of warnings or if there was gross misconduct etc.)

I will say this though, there are official disciplinary rules & procedures from the bus company head office (possibly what the OP’s BIL from TFL is referring to) but bus garages usually apply them very loosely for minor infractions - the duty manager will usually decide to give you a telling off & slap on the wrist rather than writing you up, again only for minor infractions though.

Correction I mentioned ibus in a previous post, ibus is only in London, bus garages outside of London use different AVL (Automatic Vehicle Location) systems!

PenelopeFlintstone · 09/05/2018 05:20

I wouldn't get someone into trouble over a mistake.

Ninabean17 · 09/05/2018 05:42

I'm wondering what you want out of this..?

It seemed like a genuine mistake. Or as others have said, he might have actually been told to go that way by someone higher up.

Either way his bosses probably already know about it, and are probably very unlikely to reimburse you for the private lesson.

People make mistakes, op.

LolitaLempicka · 09/05/2018 05:43

In light of the detailed explanation from Tinkety then I believe you should do sweet FA OP, you are looking to make waves and it is absolute bullshit.

UmbridgeD · 09/05/2018 05:58

Compensation for the cost of the lesson from the bus company.

Haffiana · 09/05/2018 06:06

Hahaha! Try getting a SouthEastern train to work every day and then claim compensation for constantly being late to work and losing income!

However, now you are older and wiser and will get your dd on an earlier bus, won't you? Perhaps even thank the driver for teaching you both a valuable lesson? Or are you after money, OP?

Furano · 09/05/2018 07:41

‘Report it and put a claim in for the cost of the lesson’ fucking hell how ridiculous.

Something went wrong with the journey. You didn’t leave enough time. Get over it.

Amaried · 09/05/2018 07:51

Gosh I hope that in your work, you never make an error where people are waiting in the wings to complain.
Posts like yours make me quiet sad. When did this cultural of zero tolerance towards any mistakes come from.

Wuss2018 · 09/05/2018 07:54

So if you spoke to your bil and he said it would be investigated and you could get compensation, then why are you posting here? thus rely is a non issue isn't it?

insancerre · 09/05/2018 07:54

This happened to me
The bus didn't turn in to the street where I was stood at the bus stop
I had to wait for the next one and was late for work
I wrote to complain and got a free weekly pass

LadyBusDriver · 09/05/2018 08:11

NOTHING!

Send your daughter on an earlier bus - if there had been an accident or a traffic jam anyway she'd still have been late! Hmm

Have you never made a mistake? Hmm
Bus drivers are human and make mistakes sometimes, I've done it plenty of times. He corrected it and got back on route, it was fine.

Mol1628 · 09/05/2018 08:15

Things like this happen. Doesn’t sound like he was driving dangerously or anything. Just made a wrong turn. Life doesn’t run smoothly sometimes 🤷🏻‍♀️

DonutCone · 09/05/2018 08:17

Well the apple didn't fall far from the tree if your daughter thought to get the reg number did it?

He made a mistake. But hey, make sure he gets a bollocking for it.

CollyWombles · 09/05/2018 08:19

First world problems.

LittleCandle · 09/05/2018 08:21

When I was a kid, DM and I caught the usual bus home from the city. At one point, the driver went a completely different way. Someone spoke to him and it transpired that this was the first time he had driven this route and nobody had explained it to him. He got back onto the route further on, but there were doubtless people waiting for that bus which never turned up. When we got off the bus, he asked how to get to the bus station in our town - because the company hadn't bothered to tell him that, either! I would probably contact the company and ask for compensation for the missed lesson.

MudCity · 09/05/2018 08:21

I’d do nothing,

Things happen. Delays happen. It was a genuine mistake.

Yes, ideally, the bus driver could have announced he had gone the wrong way and would be turning around as soon as possible. However, I wouldn’t be contacting the bus company to raise this. It’s not a catastrophe,

MudCity · 09/05/2018 08:26

Posts like yours make me quite sad. When did this cultural of zero tolerance towards any mistakes come from.

^^^ This

montenotte · 09/05/2018 08:28

i directed a bus driver before - i was 12. still proud of that day Smile

LadyBusDriver · 09/05/2018 08:30

And I must say that the route training isn't good in my company.

I've taken a wrong turn quite a few times in my almost 10 years for one reason or another and never had a complaint about it yet.

In fact when I first started, a few passengers helped direct me, I'd have had no idea without the help. 🤷‍♀️

StrangeLookingParasite · 09/05/2018 08:32

It wasn't deliberate, it was a mistake.

That is true. But mistakes also sometimes come with consequences.
And to those saying she didn't allow enough time - do you usually add an extra 40 minutes contingency into your trips? 15-20 sure, but 40?

VladmirsPoutine · 09/05/2018 08:33

I can almost feel your sense of delight at the 'strongly worded' letter you've written to the bus company. You're just itching to send it aren't you. It's all you can think about isn't it. Like when a person is on a strict diet and all they can think about is cake; that's exactly how you're feeling about your letter isn't it. It's going to consume you today isn't it.

MargaretCavendish · 09/05/2018 08:44

I got on a bus that took me on a fun little 40 minute detour the other day because it turned out the driver had accidentally (and briefly - so only affected me) shown the wrong destination so it wasn't the bus I wanted at all. How did I react? I was mildly annoyed and moaned to DH when I finally got home. It was just one of those things. I can't imagine how stressful life is if you lodge a formal complaint every single time something like this happens rather than just chalking it up to experience and forgetting about it. I also think the odds that the bus company will pay for your lesson - or even apologise rather than just sending you back a letter saying that they're looking into it - are vanishingly small.

insancerre · 09/05/2018 08:50

She doesn't need the reg number of the bus, the ticket will have all the info she needs