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To think this is not a valid argument against abortion

18 replies

teandtoast · 08/05/2018 17:35

Name change for this one as I imagine there'll be a few strong disagreements. I saw a post (not on here but on facebook) by a woman discussing her decision to have an abortion and how the stigma around it effected her mental health more than the procedure its self. It was a great post but I can't find it to link. I'm not exaggerating when I say that around 50% of the comment were saying how disgusting this lady was for terminating her pregnancy when other's are infertile and desperately want children. This lady had explained why adoption wasn't an option. AIBU unreasonable to say this is not a valid argument. As someone who has lost a pregnancy fairly recently I know that another woman deciding against abortion isn't going to bring my baby back or make other women's inability to have children any less real. It's something i've been thinking about a lot all day and I'm just shocked that it's a very commonly used pro-life argument. No one owes anyone else a child

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Cornettoninja · 08/05/2018 17:39

Yanbu. Of course it's not a valid argument.

It's particularly distasteful as it reduces a woman to nothing more than a vessel for reproduction but in all honesty the kind of person who would utter those sentiments probably wouldn't see the issue with it.

There's a lot to be said for not justifying anything to these people beyond, it's her choice.

FASH84 · 08/05/2018 17:40

I have fertility issues and I agree with you completely. Someone else having a baby they can't or don't want to raise is not going to affect my situation and it's not like there aren't plenty of kids in the care system already. I funny agree with the term pro life, this kind of argument is pro control.

FASH84 · 08/05/2018 17:41

*don't not funny!

geekymommy · 08/05/2018 17:44

It's lunch time here in the US. I don't want to drink a beer right now. Should I take one if it's offered, because there are lots of other people who can't have a beer and who want one now?

You could use the same argument against any kind of birth control, including not having sex. Does the fact that there are people who want a baby and can't have one obligate those of us who can have them to be constantly pregnant throughout our reproductive lives?

AlonsosLeftPinky · 08/05/2018 17:46

Couldn't agree more.

If YOU don't like or want abortion then don't have one, but it's a perfectly valid choice for others.

kikisparks · 08/05/2018 17:47

Yanbu.

Thefirsttulip · 08/05/2018 17:52

Yanbu. You could use that argument about anything in life such as should I not eat that expensive dinner in a restaurant because my neighbour is living in poverty and hasn't got enough to eat or should I not drink the wine because my friend can't because she's tee total due to alcoholism.

It's ridiculous to judge people making lifetime decisions which have zero to do with you.

GuntyMcGee · 08/05/2018 17:57

YANBU at all!

Another with fertility issues here. There's no way I'd kid

IronMansIronButt · 08/05/2018 18:00

There are no valid arguments against abortion. HTH.

GuntyMcGee · 08/05/2018 18:00

Bum! Hit post too soon.

There's no way I'd judge anyone who decided to terminate a pregnancy that was unexpected, unwanted or was of a baby who would suffer if it were born.

It has no impact on my life or my situation and also implies that all women with fertility issues would want to adopt.

It also doesn't take into account the fact that any child put up for adoption would be likely to live in the care system for years before being placed, which in itself isn't ideal.

I may be infertile, but I'm a woman and I truly believe that women have the absolute right to decide what happens to their reproductive organs.

Mymouthgetsmeintrouble · 08/05/2018 18:01

I had my children after years of infertility , im still pro choice , its an odd argument

Mousefunky · 08/05/2018 18:01

YANBU. I had two miscarriages last year and it made me more pro-choice than ever.

ohcomeon12321 · 08/05/2018 18:06

im confused why would any reason be good enough to kill a child

Andromeida59 · 08/05/2018 18:10

I've had a miscarriage previously and can't wait for DP and I to have a family. However, this doesn't change my stance on being pro-choice. A woman's decision with her body is nothing to do with me.

DrinkYourGreenTea · 08/05/2018 18:11

YANBU. Aborton is of course necessary for all sorts of reasons.

The argument 'some people can't have children', I believe can be used for people who don't appreciate or care for their children properly, and many women would love to take these children as their own. But abortion is completely different, no baby has been born and if a woman chooses to have an abortion, this does affect how successfully another woman carries a baby.

teandtoast · 08/05/2018 18:19

im confused why would any reason be good enough to kill a child
The health of the mother, the health of the child, the child being unwanted, being born into poverty or abuse, generally having a terrible quality of life or a woman making the decision that a child isn't something she wants/can handle at this point in her life. What does it matter to you why a woman makes a decision about her body. It's also not "killing a chid". What are you confused about @ohcomeon

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Charmatt · 08/05/2018 18:20

Before we had children I was diagnosed as being sub-fertile and we had fertility treatment as a result. It felt like everywhere I looked there was a pregnant woman but I was just feeling sorry about our situation. My lack of fertility didn't mean no one should be allowed to have children and our issues similarly did not mean that women should be denied a choice. Every woman has a right to choose whether to continue with a pregnancy or not. Similarly no one should judge a woman for her decision as they don't know the context in which decisions are taken.

acatcalledjohn · 08/05/2018 18:36

im confused why would any reason be good enough to kill a child

Will you pay for the unwanted child? No.

Is it your body? No.

Given the answer is no to both questions you have no right to question a woman's motive for abortion.

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