To be worried about ds development

[Grapefruitpapaya]

He turned 3 now the 19th April. He can speak but only odd words - no sentences so he will point and say juice but nothing else. He isn't potty trained and so he can't go to nursery. I'm a bit concerned, is it normal?

That is below expected development. What did his HV say at 2 year check?

I would be speaking to HV and getting a referral to SALT ASAP.

All children develop at different rates. Give your Health Visitor a call to arrange a chat or visit. They're the best people to advise.
In the meantime, try not to worry. Even if there is a problem, the HV will organise suitable help for you.

I would probably be a bit concerned I would probably seek help from the gp or health visitor about his speech the potty training comes with time does he understand needing the toilet.

Can't go to nursery because he isn't potty trained? What?

Are you in the UK? That seems remarkably strange

Worth having a chat with your hv. Potty training shouldn’t effect nursery though they may try and suggest he shouldn’t strt until trained. How are his other skills?

Speech sounds delayed but many many DC are not potty trained at 3. It doesn't usually prevent nursery entrance.Anything else OP. I agree that you should arrange to see your HV and they can assess and refer on as necessary.

If your in the UK he can go to nursery if he's not potty trained, have you spoke to your health visitor,?Ask for a referral to the community Paediatrician .

I think you are right to be concerned and should speak to a doctor/child development expert. Some children are quite late to speak but better to check now that there are no medical issues (eg glue ear) making communication difficult for him.

On a separate note, if you are in the UK, you cannot be denied a nursery place because of lack of potty training - it's illegal.

He needs to be potty trained before he starts nursery. Don't have a HV. Thanks

X post

Are you in the UK?

I know some preschools attached to schools say children must be dry. I'm not sure how they get away with it as it is illegal to discriminate on medical grounds, which obviously for many children continence issues can be. I'd definitely go to the gp, it might all just be on the slightly slower side of normal development or there might be something you can do to help.

Assuming you are in the UK than nurserys are not allowed to discriminate against children that are not potty trained and any that do should be reported .

Nurseries aren't allowed to refuse children because they aren't potty trained. My 3.5yo isn't potty trained and he goes to nursery.

Are you in the uk? You can self refer to SALT services in my area, there is a drop in session once a week you can just go along to. I would do this ASAP. Only having a few single words at 3 is behind. It may be that he progresses quickly but he needs a SALT referal.

If it is his proper preschool year in September they have to take him, trained or not. My son has language impairment and we were told it would be discrimination if he wasnt accepted. This doesnt apply if not his proper nursery yr. Get a referal to SALT now as waiting lists can be quite long. My son has been recieving speech therapy for almost 3 yrs now and attends a speech and language unit instead of mainstream school

Why not ask for a health visitor. It does sound like he is below average development so checking there is no reason (i.e. hearing ) is probably best. Do you want him at nursery now or in Sept. If Sept can you not start potty training now?

He won't potty train, we have already tried. Thanks.

you may not have an allocated HV but you can access one as your child is under 5 - in my area they always have 1 on duty and they will arrange to catch up with you.. you dont have to go via gp.just google health visitor + area or Area + local offer

there are links to development guides here.....

fsd.hounslow.gov.uk/kb5/hounslow/fsd/advice.page?id=J1_XvrkfZqs&localofferchannel=2341_6&&c=005696

Grapefruitpapaya he's a few months older than mine - 3 end of May.

For comparison we also have no real words (very vowelly and we have to do best guess so "oh" for "no", "ah oh" for "that one"") but pointing is excellent and a really good start. We got referred to speech therapy at 2, not seen much of them but they are helping slowly.

No potty training - no inclination, will say no if you ask if he poo'd etc. Won't sit on the toilet etc. He goes to school nursery, they change his nappy, they will continue to do that next year too.
What type of nursery are refusing to take him?

What is his cognition like? If you ask him to put in his shoes, pass you his hat, put teddy on the chair etc?
Can he recognise numbers, letters, colours etc?

Potty training isn’t seen these days as a red flag if it is in isolation. My some 3 year old boys can be quite resistant to it! However, his talking does sound a bit behind, definitely get his hearing checked. How is he with other things - climbing, running, kicking a ball, drinking from a cup, feeding himself, putting shoes on, doing up zips etc?

Hopefully your gp or health visitor (if you are in the uk) will help x

Plenty of kids at my daughters' pre-school were in nappies.

The speech does sounded rather delayed though, I'd head to the GP/HV.

In that case speak to the nursery about nappies as others have said they can't turn you away. I do think it's worth seeing someone about his speech though. GP may be the best place I know several children whose speech was delayed because of hearing and It would be good to try and get that dealt with in time for school and learning to read.