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Fly Tippers should be locked in a room

19 replies

BillywilliamV · 28/04/2018 10:02

and made to eat the stuff they have dumped!

Im not totally unreasonable, they can have as long as they want ...and access to cutlery and ketchup and a loo.

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CadyHeron · 28/04/2018 10:05

YANBU. Dirty feckers Smile

Lethaldrizzle · 28/04/2018 10:05

Yep especially the ones who leave mattresses on the corner of streets

LoniceraJaponica · 28/04/2018 10:09

Fly tippers give me the rage. If they find their own rubbish horrible to look at at home why do they think that everyone else won't mind if they dump it in the countryside?

BreconBeBuggered · 28/04/2018 10:21

First in the queue has to be the bellend who tipped, amongst a variety of household furnishings, several sheets of asbestos roof at the edge of woodland near me. Cheers, guys, and bon appetit.

Xmaspost · 28/04/2018 10:47

It's a real problem in certain rural areas. It's been a real problem for my elderly in-laws ... I just don't understand it Angry

jasjas1973 · 28/04/2018 10:55

I recently tried to take some large items to a local recycle centre, refused as it was all in a mates van so i registered another mates van on council website, went again, refused because it had company logo on it......
the council charges for most building waste, however small and for any tyre and its not cheap.
I then had to leave the stuff outside my house and paid £35 for 3 items (additional £23 for each additional item) for them to collect

Don't condone flying tipping at all (i d make it a min 1 year in prison + clear up costs) but councils/government need to make it very easy for law abiding folk to dispose of waste responsibly, we all pay council tax.

backinthebox · 28/04/2018 10:59

I live in a forest criss-crossed with old concrete tracks from WW2. Since the council started making anyone going to the local waste depot have a permit we've seen a huge increase in the number of fly tippers. You need to have a permit to prove you live in the area, so although I live roughly half way between 2 tips, I can only use the one I have a permit for.

There has been a marked increase in the difficulty of getting rid of larger items too, the kind you find while out in the woods. I've got a mattress I need to dispose of. I can only get it to the waste depot in my horse trailer, but my trailer is too high to fit under the height barrier so I have no way of getting rid of it. Even if I tie it to the roof rack, my car (Mitsu 4x4) is too high for the barriers too with it's roof rack on. It's been sitting on my own drive for 6 weeks now while I try and figure out how to dispose legally of it. I can see why some people take in on themselves to just drive deep into the woods and chuck their stuff.

It makes me mad that people dump their stuff wherever they fancy but it makes me really mad that the council make it so difficult to get rid of rubbish responsibly too.

backinthebox · 28/04/2018 10:59

And don't get me started on skips - where I live the locals organise a twice-yearly woodland clean up, picking up general rubbish, and a skip is ordered for the village halls car parks. The clean-up is advertised locally, and people know the skips will be there. They are delivered on a Friday for a Sunday clean-up operation and are usually filled with rubbish by Saturday lunchtime, as people see a skip and feel they have a right to use it regardless of who has paid for it. I've had a skip one my drive before and come home to find a stack of fencing panels in it. On my drive!

specialsubject · 28/04/2018 11:01

you have to pay for getting rid of big items, council tax doesnt cover it. having had to do so for filth left in a rental - it is how it is.

no excuse for flytipping. or dog waste or abandoning cars. filthy skanks.

CadleCrap · 28/04/2018 11:04

jasjas I was about to write the exact same scenario. I was able to transport the mattresses etc for free to the tip, but I was refused, as the van wasn’t registered in the same county. Couldn’t take it to the county the van was registered in because they classed as a commercial van despite there being no logos etc.

We had to arrange for a house pick up, which was ridiculously expensive.

So, I do not condone fly tipping, but I can understand why.

Mari50 · 28/04/2018 11:48

Anyone who litters anywhere should be made to eat whatever they dump.
Litter and fly tipping drives me insane.
My commute to work depresses me so much, I live in a a fairly deprived area and it does nothing for community spirit when the council leaves it looking like a shit tip and sadly a lot of the residents in the area are happy to contribute to that. As for the mattresses/tyres/sofas/freezers that drop out of the sky.....

jasjas1973 · 28/04/2018 12:00

you have to pay for getting rid of big items, council tax doesnt cover it. having had to do so for filth left in a rental - it is how it is

Well maybe because "it is how it is" is exactly why people take the time an effort to load up a van etc and then drive it miles into the sticks and dump it in a gateway? when a tip is nearer!!!

The costs to the council and land owners to clear this up is large, so would nt it be better if Councils allowed householders to take anything to a tip for free? and reduce charges for commercial waste so builders dont fly tip either?

Our council had to deal with 4000 incidents of fly tipping last year alone.

IdaDown · 28/04/2018 12:07

If you call out a waste collector check if they have a license. You should be able to confirm with local council. Otherwise, if they dump your waste (that you payed them to take) and the council track it back to you, you will be charged for clean up and removal.

Lethaldrizzle · 28/04/2018 12:23

If you can afford a new freezer surely you can afford for the old one to be taken away

Angie169 · 28/04/2018 12:23

I hate fly tippers and anyone that drops litter , it is a huge problem near me as most of the houses are owed by privet land lords so when a new tenant is going to move in the land lord just chucks all the last tenants stuff into the alleys and a disused car park.
All of my local councils offer a collection service for free for up to three items a year , with a additional cost of about £25 for each extra item .
you do not have to be in just leave the Item in the normal place that you put your bins on the day that you have arranged with your council ( not the normal bin day ) .
I do not drive so my only other choice would be 'a man and a van' which would cost more and I would have to be in .

mistermagpie · 28/04/2018 12:26

There was a whole 'to do' on my estates Facebook page recently because someone was kicking off that a neighbour has reported them for fly tipping. They had left a mattress and a load of other stuff in the road for over a week!! If you are waiting to a bulk uplift then store the stuff in your house or garden until then.

mistermagpie · 28/04/2018 12:27

Our council does uplifts for free once a week btw

Gingernaut · 28/04/2018 12:34

My council is going to move from weekly bin collections to fortnightly. We are doomed.

We are already overrun with dumped bin bags, furniture and other dross.

Some cheeky fucker dumped an old garden marquee, miscellaneous glassware and other dreck in my recycling bin two days after the bins were collected this week and I am still irrationally angry about it two days after I dealt with it.

Flytippers need castration or spaying.

The irony is, I live in such a deprived area, if you call the council, they offer item collection for free to people on benefits.

There's no fucking excuse! Angry

ScattyCharly · 28/04/2018 12:39

I think fly tipping is abhorrent and I would never do it.

However, I do understand what motivates people to do it, both businesses and individuals.

When you had a carpet fitted 20 yrs ago, the fitters would happily take up the old one and take it away for you. These days, the fitters near me say, look we have to pay £60 to dispose of a carpet so what they offer to do is to take it up and cut it up so that the householder can get rid of it themselves, because individuals can take a carpet to the tip for "free" (aside from the cost of petrol, waste of time, queues and short opening hours at the tip). Also, our tip has turned into a "pay tip" and individuals have to pay for various particular items to be tipped. Businesses have to pay for allsorts. Our tip is open during normal people's office hours so actually it's rather difficult to get there anyway! As a result of this "service", people are dumping stuff on the side of the woods, on the side of roads and in gateways. As well as chucking stuff out of the car window. Bin collections are fortnightly. Recycling can be rejected for unknown reasons. Some people don't have cars. All these things cause difficulty for people. As a result of tip charges for building materials, I see builders bag up all their litter in black sacks and chuck it all in the "no-pay" landfill bin. by trying to squeeze money out of an essential service, our council have fucked everything up. Now they just have to clear it off the roadside!!

We need proper litter disposal arrangements/systems funded by council tax. Services need to be easy to access, available 7 days a week including weekends. Until then we will have fly tipping everywhere.

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