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Shit! I'm actually obese.

147 replies

pigmcpigface · 25/04/2018 16:17

I know IABU to register shock at this, but I just got on the scales for the first time in nine months. My BMI is 30.5! That makes me officially obese for the first time in my life.

Shit, shit, shit.

I'm so ashamed! I can't actually believe it's got this out of control. Or rather, I had deliberately avoided confronting this issue until today.

I need to get my act together and make some positive changes to my lifestyle.

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Merryoldgoat · 26/04/2018 11:23

@BadLad

6lb in 10 days is only because at the start of a low carb diet you use your glycogen stores which dumps a load of water, after about 7-10 days you switch to burning only fat and lose 1-3 ish lbs per week depending on how heavy you are. Losing 2lb a week is fairly reasonable on a strict diet - 26lb over 3 months.

It’s aggressive BUT if you weigh a lot you tend to lose more in those early months.

Merryoldgoat · 26/04/2018 11:24

Sorry, after a few days you switch to burning onlybfat which translates to scales in 7-10 days.

harriethoyle · 26/04/2018 11:28

OP, I could have started this thread too - and you've jolted me into action so thank you!! In my gym clothes, about to go to spinning and have a shop full of healthy stuff arriving at 7.30am tomorrow. Let's do this! Am also keen for a weight loss/accountability thread if anyone else is...

SerenDippitty · 26/04/2018 11:42

I agree about the tendency to normalise overweight. But on this thread and others like it have noticed an equally worrying tendency to class overweight ad including the top half of the healthy weight range. This is plain wrong and has nothing to do with health concerns and everything to do with looks.

swingofthings · 26/04/2018 11:43

Lolla only posted to respond to someone who had written that OP weight was ok. There was no need to refer to her dimensions but considering most posters have she did nothing different.

The reason why age is included is to compare with others of the same group. There are more overweight and obese people above the age 45.

The defensiveness seen in this thread is the reason why obesity is becoming an epidemic problem that is suffocating the NHS. The highest cost to the NHS is diabetes which is mainly the result of obesity.

Some posters need to take example of OP and wake up that being overweight is a serious issue.

DanceDisaster · 26/04/2018 11:45

have noticed an equally worrying tendency to class overweight ad including the top half of the healthy weight range

I also think this notion that bmi 19-20 is the ideal is really unhelpful. I definitely need to lose some weight now, but have been right at the bottom of the healthy bmi scale and didn’t feel good at all, that weight.

I also think this puts overweight people off trying to get to a healthy weight as they think ideal is a lot lighter than they can manage, when maybe it isn’t.

DanceDisaster · 26/04/2018 11:46

Obviously a lower bmi suits some people I should say.

TheStoic · 26/04/2018 11:57

The reason why age is included is to compare with others of the same group

Age is not ‘included’ in calculating BMI. That poster said that nobody could calculate her BMI because they didn’t know how old she was. That’s like saying you can’t calculate my waist/hip ratio because you don’t know what colour my eyes are.

Midthreademergencynamechange · 26/04/2018 12:11

No the defeniveness on this thread is NOT the reason for increasing obesity. What a preposterous comment. Not a single person on this thread has said to the op "you are not overweight, don't worry about it".

pigmcpigface · 26/04/2018 12:19

I just walked to a meeting across the city, and back again! 6 miles! YAY!

I dunno if 'normalisation' is the best way to think about this issue with cultural perceptions of weight. I'm not denying it's a problem (I think Lolla was trying to help!), I just dunno whether it's as primary an issue as it might seem. At the back of my mind here, I'm a bit disturbed by people praising me for recognising I have a problem, because I don't think I really deserve that praise. I mean, it's lovely and supportive of y'all, don't get me wrong, but I really feel like a bit of a charlatan lapping it up. Grin

Let me put it this way. Based on my own failure to maintain a healthy weight, and my mindset in the time during which I gained radical amounts of weight (which is another way of saying "based on my experience of being a fattie"!!) the issue is less normalisation than headspace. If you have a whole bunch of shit kicking off in your life and you are the kind of person for whom food is comforting, it is easy to overeat. (I think it's also easy, in such circumstances, to start severely controlling food intake in various ways if you are the kind of person who finds that comforting instead! Neither is mentally healthy.) It is especially easy to overeat in bad circumstances if you don't have the resources to cook healthy food or are reliant on cheap food or on takeaways and ready-prepared food because you don't have any cooking facilities, or you don't have adequate cooking facilities. (I didn't have a kitchen for 4 months - or any space to cook in, due to building work!)

To diet - to commit to any goal - takes energy, and maintaing that energy takes some degree of stability. I'm able to face my weight issue head-on only because I'm basically very lucky. I'm at a positive point in my life right now where I have headspace, a reasonably stable environment, a supportive partner, and resources of time/money to invest (I have private counselling for abuse as a child, which has helped me to reach a place where I can do things like this, and I'm acutely aware of the number of people on NHS waiting lists who can't afford such a luxury). What I'm trying to say is that it is only as a result of this whole constellation of stuff, I'm able to face this problem head-on. I think it would have been very hard for me to do the same thing six months ago, when I was covered in dust and freezing cold and living on a building site. Smile

Another way of putting this: it is about will power, but there are sets of circumstances that make it much, much easier to sustain that drive, and sets of events that make it very difficult indeed.

Disclaimer (once again): I am no expert on any of this stuff - witness the marker on the scales!- but I reckon that encouraging people to care for themselves in whatever way they feel able is probably the right way forward. It's basically like FlyLady, but instead of shining your sink to remind yourself that you can tackle your entire house if you take it small step by small step, you do something small to remind yourself that YOU ARE AWESOME AND CAN DO THIS!

Raising a virtual Brew to all those in the same boat. Let's get fitter, healthier and happier.

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pigmcpigface · 26/04/2018 12:19

Bloody hell, that was long. Blush

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SchrodingersCatepillar · 26/04/2018 12:28

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, haven’t RTFT. OP you might find the Brain Over Binge books by Kathryn Hansen helpful if you are a comfort eater and have a history of abuse and counselling. I recommend the workbook in particular. It’s very interesting and has helped me enormously. Best of luck!

Morphene · 26/04/2018 12:42

I'm in more or less the same BMI place as you OP and also trying to change it. I've lost weight in the past but just cannot manage to do it at the moment. I seem to do fine for a few days than go mad for a day. It isn't averaging out to much benefit at the moment.

Last time I lost weight I had a really good thread gang on MN cheering each other along. I haven't been able to find the same support this time...

If you start a weightloss thread, let me know because I'd love to join you...I'm interested in taking up a bit of running also.

pigmcpigface · 26/04/2018 12:46

Morphene - it can be really helpful to have that support, can't it?

This has just made me think - the thing I'd love is that if we could have a group that was focused not just on weight but also other goals - fitness, healthy eating, happiness and wellbeing. I suspect there are things we all want to achieve, and also things we have all achieved that are impressive (and to the woman reading that sentence who automatically thinks "I am not impressive". I GUARANTEE YOU ARE in some way, even though you don't see it yourself!).

Two reasons for this. Firstly, it stops the exclusive focus on the pounds and ounces (which can get a bit one-eyed), and opens up a whole domain of wider wellbeing. Secondly, I think it's useful to have a mix. So slimmer person A can help heavier person B with weight loss tips, abut B can help C with tips on how to achieve a formal qualification that B already has and C wants!

But am I just dreaming that this could this work? A health and general wellbeing thread, as opposed to a weight loss one?

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Xenia · 26/04/2018 12:50

Nothing wrong with long -it gives us more to read and is interesting. I would quite lose a stone in the next month or two but I've been trying to swap it with my very very skinny 6 foot teenage son since last summer - he wants to gain one. His default is not eat as eating is an effort and I suppose he just eats when hungry which is not the case for most of us. Whether he and I will ever do that stone swap remains to be seen.

PmcP, walking is good. I like to do it on holidays but as you are doing it is probably more a question of how we eat too.

Those people not happhy with BMI the NHS recommends the following which is not fun to read if you're a bit over weight and the scales don't look too bad and I suspect people my sort of average 5 foot 4 height where the weight goes round the middle.

"Regardless of your height or BMI, you should try to lose weight if your waist is:

94cm (37ins) or more for men
80cm (31.5ins) or more for women

You are at very high risk and you should contact your GP if your waist is:

102cm (40ins) or more for men
88cm (34ins) or more for women"
DanceDisaster · 26/04/2018 12:54

Yes op! I have thought the same thing. Where is the “healthy eating” section? Rather than just the weight loss one. Some people might want to stay the same weight but be healthier and some might even need to gain weight and want to achieve that by healthy eating. A friend of mine had that problem when she was ttc. She needed help and support to gain weight healthily.

Dancingleopard · 26/04/2018 12:54

pigmcpigface

I’ve jus dug out my Charlotte Crosby 3 min belly blitz DVD. I lost quite a bit with that a few years after dd2 with a bit of calorie counting.

Had to get it out again a couple of weeks ago and can see it working already. It’s in rounds of 3 mins to you can build yourself up through them. Was breathing out my arse two weeks ago but not too bad now Grin

Good luck !! Star

pigmcpigface · 26/04/2018 12:55

"where the weight goes round the middle."

I would like to say I am "pear shaped", but I actually look like a cartoon of a woman who has swallowed a life buoy whole.

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TittyFahLaEtcetera · 26/04/2018 13:04

I'm the same height, and was the same weight as you last Summer, OP.

I managed to lose just over a stone in 4 months whilst I was signed off work. I was unable to drive, so had to walk everywhere. I'm now back to driving and work in a very sedentary role. My weight crept back up and I put half a stone back on.

I'm now trying to stop snacking at my desk and drinking more water. I also try to do brisk walking in shirt bursts. There's evidence now that 10 minutes brisk walking 3x a day for a few days of the week is better for you than longer walks taken less frequently.

I'm disabled and have hypothyroidism so my weight is hard to control. But if I keep the activity up I do ok. Based on what I eat (pretty healthy), I only need to do about 5000 steps a day if I want to lose weight. I'm going to try cycling too, but as I have a DC i can't leave alone in the evening, who cycles slooowly, I'm looking into buying a turbo trainer to use in the garden, or possibly in the living room for a 30 minute cycle during Eastenders lol!

DMCWelshCakes · 26/04/2018 13:35

I started a very similar thread at the weekend. I weighed myself for the first time in ages & realised that i need to lose 4 stone to get back to my (medically agreed) target weight.

So I've stopped eating crap this week. And I've done 45 minutes of exercise each day. I've done a different sort of exercise each day otherwise I get bored.

I weigh in on Saturday and I'm bizarrely nervous about it. I need to shift the weight for health reasons. And I want to be back to an 8-10 begore my 40th later this year.

We just need to keep plugging away at it week by week and not lose our motivation.

pigmcpigface · 26/04/2018 14:13

I made a thread! It's called 'A glass of water - the self-optimisation thread'. And it's here in General Health, not in weight loss. Because I want this to be about looking after ourselves, not about beating ourselves up.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/3232634-A-glass-of-water-the-self-optimisation-thread?watched=1

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RingtheBells · 26/04/2018 19:47

I think it was mentioned upthread but the truth about obesity is on TV tonight at 8 on BBC1

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