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Trumpwatch: Courage Calls to Courage Everywhere

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lionheart · 24/04/2018 20:00

Let's hope he is done soon. Smile

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lionheart · 03/05/2018 09:38

Giuliani. Smile

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 11:19

Avenatti on Colbert

lettuceWrap · 03/05/2018 13:30

Ha! Grin

lionheart · 03/05/2018 14:20

To recap.

rantt.com/a-timeline-of-president-trumps-endeavor-to-obstruct-justice-25884237cde6

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 14:24

He's tweeting again but it's clearly not him that is putting together the tweets. This does feel as though it's starting to unravel

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 14:25

twitter.com/Shakestweetz/status/992026310271680512

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Roussette · 03/05/2018 15:48

Love it MIssMarples, just had to tweet it Grin

PerkingFaintly · 03/05/2018 16:47

The tweets behind that The Hill story (many pics of docs were embedded in the tweets):

twitter.com/waltshaub/status/992019328492032001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F385994-ex-white-house-ethics-chief-trump-just-admitted-filing-a-false

Walter Shaub
@ waltshaub
AMAZING! In trying to talk his way out of a campaign finance violation, Trump has admitted to filing a false financial disclosure in 2017. He personally certified that his disclosure was "complete and correct," subject to penalties at 18 U.S.C. § 1001 and 5 U.S.C. app. § 104. 1/
5:33 am - 3 May 2018

But Tump and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, now admit that he had a $460,000 liability that he omitted from his financial disclosure report. /2

I normally assume omissions are inadvertent. However, given all of the deception about the Stormy Daniels payment, it is pretty hard to believe this was not intentional. Take, for example, the way Trump's people fooled Maggie Haberman regarding this payment. /3

Or the way that David Schwartz embarrassed the legal profession with his denials. /4 www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/29/we-finally-got-an-answer-as-to-whether-trump-knew-about-the-stormy-daniels-payment/?utm_term=.5877370154d4

And remember that Trump's attorney wanted him to be the first person in history to file a financial disclosure report without certifying that the report was true, as recounted in this story by @bykowicz: www.apnews.com/417c7e00c0274a3792e3262d22afaa8c
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Looks like @NormEisen and the good folks at @CREWcrew have already filed a complaint with DOJ. /6

This seems like as strong a circumstantial case for a violation as one is going to see. It is absolutely stunning that we've reached the point where the President of the United States appears to have lied to U.S. Office of Government Ethics about a payoff to a porn star. /end
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Norm Eisen Retweeted Donald J. Trump
If Cohen loan was not one to campaign, then it was one to you, and you omitted it from your personal federal financial disclosures for the period. That’s a crime under 18 USC 1001 & we have filed a criminal complaint with DOJ. s3.amazonaws.com/storage.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/08223629/DOJ-OGE-letter-Trump-loan-3-8-

lionheart · 03/05/2018 17:09

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/giualini-stormy-daniels-w519786

'But the revelations, themselves, are not the story here – it’s the rationale behind them. The problem for Trump, Cohen and Giuliani isn’t that the former mayor and prosecutor contradicted the public statements the president and Cohen have made. (Those contradictions were bound to be exposed anyway.) The biggest long-term problem for Trump is that the gang at the White House evidently is hewing to flawed legal analysis about how this "truth" fits into campaign finance, money laundering and fraud law. Giuliani thinks his comments to Sean Hannity absolve or exculpate Trump. Clearly other bright bulbs at the White House do as well.'

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 18:07

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
#BREAKING: Federal investigators wiretapped Michael Cohen's phone before the raid on his properties, and intercepted at least one phone call between Cohen & the WH, per @NBCNews.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 18:12

Feds tapped Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's phones

At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was intercepted, a source said.

www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna871011

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 18:13

Ken Dilanian
@KenDilanianNBC
Michael Avenatti: Wiretaps must have picked up indication that Michael Cohen was going to destroy evidence, hence the raids on his home and offices.

Gumpendorf · 03/05/2018 18:30

Wasn't the fire at Trump Tower, the weekend immediately before the raid. There were jokes about destroying evidence at the time, iirc. 🤔

Gumpendorf · 03/05/2018 18:34

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43686271

Yup - fire on 8th and raid on 10th. Coincidence? Hmmmm...

Gumpendorf · 03/05/2018 18:38

Of course, the GOP will argue that destroying evidence is fine (as Hillary wiped her servers). We live in interesting times.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 18:51

James Comey
@Comey
I know the New York FBI. There are no “stormtroopers” there; just a group of people devoted to the rule of law and the truth. Our country would be better off if our leaders tried to be like them, rather than comparing them to Nazis.

Robert Costa
@costareports
Q: What’s your response to @Comey coming at you about the ‘storm troopers' comment? Giuliani: “He’s a sensitive little baby"

boatyardblues · 03/05/2018 19:05

All the usual Shock apply, but I have to admit today’s posts and all the links have lifted my spirits. There’s a “last days of the Roman Empire” feel to current events. You also get the sense the fall will be mighty and Trump will take many down with him.

ohmymimi · 03/05/2018 19:11

Top 'tache trolling Grin
mobile.twitter.com/bengreenman/status/991735715561181184

ohmymimi · 03/05/2018 19:26

mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/992074815115878406
No shit, Sherlock!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 19:35

Preet Bharara
@PreetBharara
Wiretaps are difficult to get. Applications require multiple layers of review, including by career lawyers in Washington, plus approval by a district court judge (not magistrate). Also they signify proof of an ongoing crime. And you don't tap a President's attorney lightly.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/05/2018 19:37

Special counsel Robert Mueller focusing sharply on links between Trump confidant Roger Stone and former campaign official Rick Gates, sources say

www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/05/03/mueller-focuses-on-links-between-roger-stone-trump-campaign-aide-gates.html