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Trumpwatch: Courage Calls to Courage Everywhere

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lionheart · 24/04/2018 20:00

Let's hope he is done soon. Smile

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lionheart · 26/04/2018 20:31

It's a strange one Roussette.

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cozietoesie · 26/04/2018 21:37

Putting perspective on the NK announcement.

China Study - the collapse of NK's Test Site?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/04/2018 21:56

I did think that there would be some connection Cozie.

cozietoesie · 26/04/2018 23:26

And for anyone reading who has doubts about the problem of 45's attitude to climate change.

Hillman

(Sorry. Have a stiff drink if you're going to read it.)

lionheart · 26/04/2018 23:37

Oh. Gin

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:13

Investigations

Donald Trump's personal lawyer once reportedly bragged that he was part of the Russian mob
www.businessinsider.com.au/michael-cohen-bragged-about-being-part-of-russian-mob-2018-4

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Feds seized more than a dozen of Michael Cohen’s phones
nypost.com/2018/04/26/feds-seized-more-than-a-dozen-of-michael-cohens-phones/

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Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
Jill Stein is refusing to comply with a Senate intelligence committee request for documents pertaining to her campaign's communications with Russians
JILL STEIN DEFIES SENATE INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENT REQUEST, CALLING IT “OVERBROAD” AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
theintercept.com/2018/04/26/russia-jill-stein-senate-intelligence/

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Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
NEW: Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) says he is "eager" to release transcripts of interviews with Donald Trump Jr. and others who attended the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Kremlin-linked Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya
www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/trump-tower-meeting-russian-transcript-grassley-557153

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Kyle Cheney
‏*@kyledcheney*
NEWS: A top House intel committee Republican says intelligence agencies “over-redacted” large swaths of their Russia investigation report.

The panel may release the report anyway as early as tonight or tomorrow and fight the redactions later.
www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/russia-house-intel-report-redacted-conaway-557302

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‘This thing needs to conclude’: Sessions says he understands frustrations with Mueller
www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/this-thing-needs-to-conclude-sessions-says-he-understands-frustrations-with-mueller/2018/04/26/0a5fdc7c-4987-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html

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Jeremy Herb
‏*@jeremyherb*

NEWS: CNN has reviewed the new Strzok/Page text messages delivered to Congress today, which show their reactions to the Comey firing and Mueller appointment.
edition.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/missing-strzok-page-text-messages/index.html

And

Donald Trump Will Do Anything To Avoid Prosecution–And John Bolton Will Help
If Trump distracts us from his own misdeeds, and financially benefits and consolidates power through war, it won’t matter to him how many lives are lost.
www.fastcompany.com/40558314/donald-trump-will-do-anything-to-avoid-prosecution-and-john-bolton-will-help

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:29

Nicholas Fandos
@npfandos
SCOOP: The F.B.I. first gave the White House counsel a file containing spousal abuse allegations against Rob Porter in March 2017, according to a detailed new timeline the bureau has given to Congress

It casts further doubt on the West Wing’s account of how accusations against one of President Trump’s closest advisers were handled. w/@juliehdavis @adamgoldmanNYT

F.B.I. Letter Casts Further Doubt on White House’s Rob Porter Timeline
www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/us/politics/rob-porter-mcgahn-fbi-white-house.html

Sheryl Gay Stolberg
@SherylNYT
More Sheryl Gay Stolberg Retweeted Nicholas Fandos
SCOOP: White House knew of allegations against Rob Porter nearly a year before he left.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:49

Media

The military paid for a study on sea level rise. The results were scary.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/04/25/climate-change-could-make-thousands-of-tropical-islands-uninhabitable-in-coming-decades-new-study-says/

Daniel Dale
@ddale8
The president rejecting the fact that the world is warming - let alone that the warming is caused by humans - is one of those scandals that gets little coverage because it's viewed as a policy matter on which the media can't take a side.

And

An NYT writer, Amy Chozick, has written a book about the Clintons that Chelsea Clinton states has several inaccuracies that could have been fact checked. Then NBC's Katy Tur waded in and said she believed Chozick because they used the same fact checker (Katy Tur's book isn't out yet).

Katy Tur
@KatyTurNBC
The man fact checking @amychozick's book is the same one who fact checked mine. The same one who is so nit picky that he called Delta to confirm flight times. I would bet on Chozick here, not @ChelseaClinton.

Dan Halpern
‏*@HalpernDan*
Replying to @KatyTurNBC @amychozick @ChelseaClinton
Amazing how little people understand how this stuff works but how much they have to say about it. If the checker is good, any journalist can guess exactly what happened here. Bet on Chozick.

Chelsea Clinton
@ChelseaClinton
More Chelsea Clinton Retweeted Dan Halpern
Hi Dan! Neither Amy nor her fact checker ever reached out to me or my office. She’s not disputing that. There’s no guess to be made. I care about facts. Hope you have a great night!

[in response to a now-deleted tweet:

Chelsea Clinton
@ChelseaClinton
Replying to @moorehn @anamariecox
Her characterization of my election night was completely false. She had to amend the excerpt. I wish she would have asked me directly and wish now she would explain why she or her fact checker didn’t fact check. ]

(another example twitter.com/hunterw/status/989135894312640517 )

Linda Schoenberg
@LindaSchoenberg
The egregious false equivalence (HRC emails vs all the Trump horrors) propagated by the NYT during the 2016 election was unforgivable and shows that the sloppy reporting of Amy Chozick isn’t just a one off.

The Hoarse Whisperer
@HoarseWisperer
There is something particularly vulgar about journalists like @amychozick profiteering off of tell-all’s about the disservice they did to the country in covering the election.

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southpaw
@nycsouthpaw
CNN panel rn: Bloomberg reporter, AP reporter, NYT reporter, opinion writer from The Federalist

Greg Greene
@ggreeneva
More Greg Greene Retweeted southpaw
Jesus Christ, @CNN, look at yourselves.

This rankles today because I keep thinking about @jayrosen_nyu's thread on how the press has become an embattled noncombatant in conservatives' information war. Thread:

Jay Rosen
@jayrosen_nyu
1/ I wrote in my latest essay: "Journalists are correct that if they become the political opposition to Trump, they will lose. And yet, they have to go to war against a political style in which power gets to write its own story." www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/04/25/why-trump-is-winning-and-the-press-is-losing/ … Many people have asked me—
... about that distinction. They want to know: What should journalists do in this situation if they cannot become the political opposition, and yet they have to push back against Trump turning journalists into hate objects and "flooding the zone with shit," as Bannon put it. 2/
First: Suspension of normal relations, as one does in diplomacy. Many things belong under this heading, starting with withdrawal from rituals like the @whca dinner that presume normalcy. It would be up to different news organizations to decide what to suspend, but begin there. 3/
Second. Those who have exited from the press system? (The one third I mentioned in my @nybooks essay.) Keep reporting on them, and trying to understand where they are coming from, so as to deepen our grasp of what led to this disaster. Click for more: pressthink.org/2016/12/prospects-american-press-trump-part-two/#p30 … 4/
Third: Optimize "normal" journalism for trust in the way I describe here: pressthink.org/2017/12/show-work-new-terms-trust-journalism/ … and again here: medium.com/de-correspondent/optimizing-journalism-for-trust-1c67e81c123 … 5/
Fourth: Collaborate internationally with journalists in countries that are seeing the same events play out, so as to improve our understanding of how "the politics of press hating" operates in different settings with different political systems. 6/
Fifth: When the national press and the local press team up to deliver public service journalism and accountability reporting, that's fighting against the "fake news" canard without mentioning the term or its circulator-in-chief. More like this, please. www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/insider/louisiana-times-picayune.html … 7/
Sixth: News organizations could band together more often — with each other and civil society groups — to put heavy pressure on the platforms to do more to combat propaganda and disinformation here and around the world. 8/
Are these "solutions?" Nope. Each has its own defects; there are costs that might not be affordable. And there are stories to chase! I guess it depends on how serious you think the situation is. My view: bad enough to suspend normal relations, and take unprecedented actions. END

Greg Greene
@ggreeneva
No, CNN shouldn't become a partisan opponent of the Trump administration. That job is for politicians.

But journalists need to recognize that the whole point of the right-wing project is to demolish any sources of authority that compete with its own.

This has been the objective of the right wing for a while, actually.

That explains why among the first moves Newt Gingrich made as Speaker, out of the gate, were the termination of funding for caucuses and the shutdown of the OFfice of Technology Assessment.

It's also why conservatives like Scott Walker have attacked tenure in higher-ed.

And also why conservatives in places like Texas have enacted campus carry — which intimidates speech on campus.

And also why conservatives like Sam Brownback, Scott Walker, and — just this year — Pennsylvania lawmakers have threatened to defund or pack their judiciaries.

And also why conservatives such as Scott Pruitt and — at the state level — Scott Walker, former N.C. governor Pat McCrory and Sam Brownback move to quash, defund, or eliminate the jobs of people who conduct scientific research.

And also why conservatives have built a whole ersatz media apparatus to belch misinformation and worse across the landscape — while attempting to discredit or intimidate providers of mroe objective reporting.

www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

I could go on, but you get it.

The institutions I've mentioned above — scientists, academia, and, yes, the press — are in the business of helping people understand the world as it is.

To judge from its behavior for a quarter-century now …

… the American right has come to see knowledge of the world as it is as intolerable — as a threat to the movement's power to do as it wishes.

I don't expect CNN to come right out and say that. But it should recognize that as an institution dedicated to explaining the world as it is, war is being made on it — and made on it precisely for that reason.

And the least it can do in response — not as a political act, but in its own defense — is give up the pretense of balance (i.e., a little from the left, a little from the right, dust hands, job done!) to focus instead …

… on objectivity: on explaining the world as it is.

Panels that pit three traditional reporters against a conservative sloganeer fail miserably at doing that. In fact they're acts of self harm …
… because they create precisely the impression of traditional outlets as political opponents of the right that the press ostensibly wants to avoid.

Putting reporters in front of political operatives to be lectured for their 'tone,' as CNN's @Acosta was scolded yesterday, also permits the right to position the media as a political opponent — while delivering nothing of actual substance.

I don't have well-developed answers here — I'll leave that to press thinkers. But I'll cap my amateur diagnosis with a bare-minimum suggestion to CNN: stop doing this stuff, for pete's sake.

Stop hurting yourselves. Figure this stuff out.

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James Comey
@Comey
The last two weeks were a reminder of the vital role of the press and of open-minded, respectful conversation in our lives. I’m grateful for good and tough questions from reporters across the spectrum and around the world. Look forward to more.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:51

Betsy Woodruff
@woodruffbets
NEW: Because of our scoop, Ballard's firm has dropped its Assad-linked client

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-aligned-lobbying-firm-drops-assad-linked-client/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:53

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Trump aides fought for months to keep him from doing what he did this morning/the thing that makes him happiest - just calling Fox and Friends and talking as if it was one of his private conversations.

And it was another installment of this president versus the presidency.

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
More Renato Mariotti Retweeted Maggie Haberman
THREAD: What are the legal consequences of Trump’s statements on Fox and Friends this morning?
1/ This morning, on Fox and Friends, Trump made a number of admissions that could create issues for him going forward. The first was his admission that Michael Cohen represented him with this “crazy Stormy Daniels deal.”
2/ That seems at odds with his prior statement that he didn’t know anything about the Stormy Daniels payment or agreement. Why would you hire a lawyer to handle a matter but know nothing about the agreement that resulted from his representation? It’s possible but hard to believe.
3/ Trump’s prior assertion that he knew nothing about the deal greatly undercut some of his arguments in the Daniels lawsuit, such as his argument that the case should be arbitrated, but it would have made it easier to avoid a deposition because he claimed no knowledge at all.
4/ The seemingly inconsistent statements could be used to undercut his credibility. In any event, it’s now unclear what his position will be in the lawsuit going forward—did he know about the Stormy Daniels agreement or not?
5/ Trump also tried to distance himself from Cohen, claiming that handled “a percentage of my overall legal work, a tiny, tiny little fraction.” That could be inconsistent with Cohen’s arguments in federal court that the FBI seized extensive attorney-client communications.
6/ As a practical matter, although this was cited by federal prosecutors, it had little impact on the judge’s ruling today appointing a special master, which was a very minor victory for Trump and Cohen. But it was a statement that appeared contrary to Trump’s legal position.
7/ Trump also said he was “very disappointed in my Justice Department ... I have decided that I won't be involved. I may change my mind at some point because what's going on is a disgrace.” There was nothing to gain for him telegraphing his desire to interfere with the DOJ.
8/ If Trump later takes action against Mueller or Rosenstein, those statements could be used to show his state of mind, such as his desire to interfere with the DOJ and his knowledge that interfering with the DOJ would be problematic. /end

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:53

Ryan Struyk
@ryanstruyk
Only 37% of Republican voters say the news media is "an important part of democracy" vs. a majority, 51%, who says it's "the enemy of the people," via new Quinnipiac poll today.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:54

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
According to the latest Fox News poll, a majority of Americans believe that special counsel Robert Mueller will find that Trump committed criminal or impeachable offenses.

www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2018/04/25/fox-news-poll-results-425.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 06:55

Amy Siskind
@Amy_Siskind
The gaslighting of America continues:
Trump denied on Thursday that he told former FBI Director James Comey that he didn't spend a night in Moscow, saying, "Of course I stayed there."

Trump denies that he told Comey he didn't stay overnight in Moscow
edition.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-moscow/index.html

Roussette · 27/04/2018 07:01

Thanks for the links Pain.

This thread is worth reading...

threadreaderapp.com/thread/989636888901423111.html

It's all about Pence and how everyone should be very wary...

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 07:03

Bill Browder
@Billbrowder
44 MEP's led by @petras_petras call for an EU wide Magnitsky Act to go after Russian human rights violators and corrupt oligarchs. The temperature is rising for the EU to finally do this.

MEPs Urge EU Magnitsky Act To Tackle Kremlin's 'Antidemocratic” Activities
www.rferl.org/a/eu-magnitsky-act-letter-russia-undemocratic-activities/29194557.html

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Soraya Chemaly
@schemaly
Reupping this @sarahkendzior on Russia's trolling in plain sight, bc in fact, "incels", MRAs, white supremacists, Nazis - networked, useful, disruptive, and terroristic in specifically ignored ways. Maybe "daughters of Priam" would work better.

www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/russia-s-social-media-propaganda-was-hiding-plain-sight-ncna816886

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Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
"Russia Boasts It Is Winning Info-Wars Against the West"
It's a deep dive, so grab a cup of java. ☕️
#Russia #InfoWars #Propaganda
www.juliadavisnews.com/articles-about-russian-propaganda/russia-boasts-it-is-winning-info-wars-against-the-west/

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Twitter Tolerates Russian Trolls Over Pornbots, EU's Ansip Says
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-26/twitter-tolerates-russian-trolls-over-pornbots-eu-s-ansip-says

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Andrew Neil
@afneil
Russian state tv shows footage from 2016 set of Syrian film as evidence for Moscow claim that recent gas attack in Syria "staged." TV runs behind-the-scenes images from set of short film produced by Syrian director Humam Husari to “prove” attack faked. Goebbels would be proud.

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A Movie as “New Evidence on Fake Chemical Attack” – Again
euvsdisinfo.eu/a-movie-as-new-evidence-on-fake-chemical-attack-again/

Roussette · 27/04/2018 07:03

And this... from an Indiana resident. Pence is a snake and terrifying

medium.com/@archiestrauss/pence-constituents-never-forget-governor-a-continuing-compendium-a2d1cdc94d8b

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 07:14

roussette Maddow has been on Pence's case for a long time and has laid out how Pence is clearly lying several times. It is extremely frustrating that it's not discussed more!

twitter.com/maddowblog/status/940407271720411142

Flynn Jr's re-stoked some of the flames though with his tweet yesterday:

Did Michael Flynn Jr. just reveal something very, very important about the Russia investigation?
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/23/politics/michael-flynn-jr-donald-trump/index.html

On Monday morning, Michael Flynn Jr., the son of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, tweeted something very, well ... interesting.

"American Patriot @GenFlynn did not lie to Pence (or anyone else in the admin) about his perfectly legal and appropriate conversations w Russian AMB Kislyak in Dec 2016," Flynn Jr. tweeted. "Why would a highly decorated military intel officer lie about something legal? Been a MSM lie from day 1."

So just to be clear, what Flynn Jr. is alleging is that his dad never lied to Vice President Mike Pence (or anyone else!) about his interactions with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

That runs directly counter to Pence's version of events. Pence said Flynn did not tell the truth when the two talked about interactions with Kisylak. "I was disappointed to learn that ... the facts that had been conveyed to me by Gen. Flynn were inaccurate," Pence said a week after Flynn's firing.

That tweet also contradicts the explanation offered by Trump for firing Flynn in the first place.

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI," Trump said via Twitter in December 2017. "He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" (It was later revealed that Trump attorney John Dowd wrote the actual tweet.)

And it complicates and seemingly contradicts the fact that Flynn himself pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI about the nature and depth of his interactions with Kislyak during the presidential transition process.

"I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right," Flynn said in a statement after his December 2017 plea. "My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflects a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions."

So...

Flynn Jr. is now saying his father never lied to Pence about his interactions with Kisylak. Which, if he is telling the truth, would mean:

Pence, who has said he had no knowledge of the conversations Flynn was having with Kisylak and other Russian officials, actually did know.
Trump's reason for firing Flynn doesn't hold water since the former national security adviser didn't lie to Pence.
Flynn chose to lie to the FBI about his dealings with the Russians during the transition but told the truth to the incoming vice president about those same interactions.
It's that third point that makes Flynn Jr.'s tweet about his father's veracity questionable. Why would Flynn tell Pence the truth but then lie to the FBI? The former might be a fireable offense but the latter is a crime. What would make him purposely do that?

Then there is the fact that Flynn Jr. has a past history of just saying stuff. One example: He was removed from the Trump transition team after he sent a series of tweets fomenting the so-called "Pizzagate" conspiracy.

Add it all up and the most likely scenario here is that Flynn Jr. was just talking on Twitter without any real evidence to back up his claims about his dad.

But man oh man, if Flynn is willing to say under oath that he in fact never did lie to Pence, then the vice president would have some explaining to do.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/04/2018 07:15

I think Pence is more dangerous than Trump in every way other than Trump's higher risk of deploying nuclear weapons to get out of trouble/change the subject

Roussette · 27/04/2018 07:39

Interesting, thanks, Pain
Smile

lionheart · 27/04/2018 08:11

Yes, I hope Pence goes down in flames too.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/abortion-lisa-murkowski-susan-collins-trump-judges_us_5ade226ae4b0b2e8113244df

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ohmymimi · 27/04/2018 08:21

Trump campaign using Kanye tweets in fundraising.HmmHmm
mobile.twitter.com/bykowicz/status/989554489421123584

ohmymimi · 27/04/2018 08:27

Stormy Daniels used Trump’s Fox & Friends interview against him and Cohen in a court filing — the second same-day adverse filing ....
mobile.twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/989684024607096832