To be disgusted about Prince Charles racist comments...

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... and the fact that what would be headline news for any other public figure has being played down?

Yesterday, Prince Charles told a woman of Guyanese extract that she “didn’t look like she was from Manchester”. The article linked was on the Guardian front page in middle of the night - and now almost impossible to find. I can’t find mention of it anywhere else.

So AIBU to be disgusted that he (or anyone of normal intelligence) would think, much less say such a thing - and disappointed (not sure if that’s actually the right word) that the media doesn’t seem to be reporting in the way they would if anyone else had said similar?

www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/apr/19/prince-charles-brown-skin-british-people-head-of-commonwealth?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

So a black woman says a white dude in authority says something clearly racist and some posters deny it happened. Because the black woman was lying.

And we wonder if MN has a problem.

Was she wearing traditional dress?
He could have been commenting on her clothes maybe?

Pasta that's sort of what I was getting at.

Fuck me. ANYTHING other than he was being racist.

I am not making any assumptions. But I do find it hard to believe that anyone, and him in particular, thinks that, and if they did that they'd not think before opening their mouth.

I have no love for Charles, but I don’t think for a minute he was being racist. I think it’s more likely he was opening a conversational gambit, inviting her response that her family was originally from country X (in this case, Guyana). Whereupon he could exchange anecdotes about when he visited the place on official trips, or make complimentary remarks about how he liked the place, or joke that she was mad to move to cold wet Manchester, etc.
I’ve worked with colleagues from all over the world in the NHS, and it’s often an ice breaker remark to ask where they’re from “originally”, then chat about it.

I was in St Lucia chatting with a lady who is a London resident originally from Tobago. A local asked her where she was from and made the same comment. (about London not Manchester obvs). I don’t think it was racist, just shorthand for “where are your roots?” In the contest of a Commonwealth dinner surely that wasn’t inappropriate?

MrPan I just can’t believe some people want to defend this man, why? He’s been in the public eye his whole life. Even if he’d said it not meaning to come across racist it still shows a pretty extreme level of stupidity and unawareness. Either way it’s awful.

Context not contest

That said the princess Michael of Kent thing was pretty shocking and fairly unambiguous.

But they DO do that!

'So where are you really from??'

“Where are you really from” is dog whistle racism and a pretty common one.

I'm white and I don't look like I come from my local city either.

All you racists - deciding he said that because of her colour. Perhaps he thought she didn't look like she was from Manchester because she was smiling.

Glad to see we're avoiding crappy stereotypes

I am Mancunian. It is a very diverse city like most. Times have changed Charlie.

“its not as though Manchester is some far flung inbred enclave where a black person is hard to find.”

See how easy it is to stereotype places?

it’s often an ice breaker remark to ask where they’re from “originally”, then chat about it.

This is such a presumption though! I get it, Its making conversation. But you could be really pissing people off. I know some of my mixed race friends find this really irritating and depending how it’s phrased downright offensive. They wouldn’t mind someone asking their heritage out of interest after perhaps several meetings but if the first thing you ask someone is insinuating that they’re not British or they came from somewhere else it’s can start to feel pretty alienating. It’s the frequency of it too. And they can never just tell that particular person to fuck off becaue they know they haven’t done it from a place of any malice, they just have to smile and repeat constantly.

Even my fil is vv royalist says charles is a reason for the monarchy to end. It needsto jump a generation!

I don't believe, at all, that Prince Charles said anything of the sort.

Just people wanting to bash, as per usual.

Gullibility at its best.

Here's a man who is certainly racist, and don't think it ends there, he would not deign to mix with the proles at all if he could feasibly avoid it. He's a man who lives a charmed life of luxury in his gilded cage. His contact with people is governed by how much money they bring with them for His " charities".All others need not apply.

Exactly what @MrPan said!!! Never ceases to baffle me how far ppl are willing to go to excuse racist behaviour, overt or implied, just because they are so uncomfortable with, and unwilling to ackowledge the reality of racism in our society. Poor precious white ppl, always being accused of being racist for no good reason....

“I’ve worked with colleagues from all over the world in the NHS, and it’s often an ice breaker remark to ask where they’re from “originally”, then chat about it.”

This is fine if talking to someone with a London accent in Newcastle, or a Welsh accent in Norwich. NOT fine to ask of any BAMER person in the UK. Unless you know for sure, because they have already said, that they arrived here from elsewhere.

It's just so hugely stupid.
But then we havr trump as us president. So maybe it's not that unusual.

I don't like the man. I don't like the idea of monarchy. But my gut feeling is this is made up. It's a book promotion.

Surely someone else would have picked up on this if he'd really said it? What ever his own attitude is, i don't think he'd say something that crass in public.