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AIBU To End This

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ScrewYouTalkingTom · 16/04/2018 04:27

Ffs I typed this out amazingly and the page refreshed as I was proof reading! Typing again but I might miss things out Angry brutal advise and honestly welcome...

Backstory: work colleague of 4+ years separated from his wife just over a year ago, moved into his own place 8 months ago. Sepeated on bad terms with her wanting to see other people and him not wanting that. She’s happily dating someone new, but from what I’ve overheard from conversations is making his life hell during the divorce. I’d not spoke to him much in work and only really on the work Facebook chat outside of it. I’d always been attracted to him, but of course he was married etc so there was no office flirting or even ‘banter’. All very professional.

Around October - November last year he sent me a message on Facebook outside the group chat, asking if he could take me on a date. It was very out of the blue and I turned him down politely, stating I didn’t really know him that well and I wasn’t sure the timing was right (due to his messy divorce). Other factors were in play in my own mind, such as the fact that he’s 15 years older than me and I assumed he was a new bachelor trying to score with someone younger (i’m in my mid 20’s).

From that though we began talking. Although he’d sometimes suggest dating again it never went further than a friendship but we really got to know each other and I really warmed up to him, as we had a lot in common and he’s a really great guy. Fast forward to theee months ago, during a work nights out I had a one night stand with him.

The morning after awkwardness we had an open chat, in which he again expressed he’d really like to date me, more so now that we really got to know one another, as I initially it was because he’d just been attracted to me. I was still somewhat reserved and instead suggested we just keep things casual instead, as I still had this nagging doubt that he’d get back together with his wife somehow. He agreed.

All seemed perfect really. We talked loads still, the hook ups were fun in that we would usually watch movies or chat for hours and it was exciting. It worked. We both agreed to not see other people whilst hooking up and to let the other know if we wanted to end it. It was mutual. Then I ruined it all by catching feelings around three weeks ago. It just hit me - I was beginning to really like this guy. Only at this point things had begun to change and I didn’t like the changes.

We had stopped talking all the time like we used to and unless I initiated chat the only time he messaged me was to arrange a hook up. Although we still had a nice time together, the late night chats etc all stopped and I missed those.

He used to suggest we do things, such as see a movie we both said we’d like to see at the cinema, or do something we had both never done (like bowling - yes, I’ve never done it!) but they always seemed like a joke to me, as I secretly knew we never would as he’d suggest them and then never mentioned them again.

I actually realised I was more invested when he began to pull away and I missed what went used to ‘have’ so to speak, which was really a sort of relationship looking back on it without the dating, because we used to talk so much. I took advice from my friends, which was to purposely not initiate chat, but I’d get radio silence until he was asking for a hook up. To me this suggests he’s no longer interested and why would he be? He’s had his cake and eaten it too.

In my eyes a casual hook up is only casual when there are no feelings involved. Me beginning to like him and him becoming so distant suggests to me he was never serious all along and that this needs to end before someone (let’s face it me) gets hurt in the long run.

So, AIBU to end this purely on the grounds that I don’t want to get hurt? If it ends now I’m confident we can resume a work colleague relationship and remain friends. It’s not like we’ve suggested this be anything more and quite honestly, he seems to like it like this and I don’t want to complicate things by pushing for something I initially rejected, when it’s obvious (at least to me) by his pulling away he never wanted more, not really. It’s clear to me this is what he wanted all along, no strings attached. Whilst I was up for this, as I’ve got to know him I’m beginning to want more.

(My original post was more fleshed out but I think I covered everything )

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ThisIsTheFirstStep · 16/04/2018 04:32

I’d end it, not because I’m scared of being hurt but because he’s clearly not that into you.

He wanted to shag someone younger without complications. He’s done that and now he’s bored.

Move on.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 16/04/2018 04:39

Honestly, i'm wondering if he's just given up on the chase of a relationship and accepted this is all he's getting, and has withdrawn so much so that HE doesn't get hurt. You do say you've turned him down more than once, maybe he's just settled for what you were offering, and now you want something different.

Honestly, i think you should talk to him about how he feels things are going, is he happy with the arrangement, would he possibly want more, and see what he says. I think it's unfair to judge that he's been playing you all along and wasn't sincere as he made a move more than once and got shot down, people don't wait forever if they honestly think they have no chance.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 16/04/2018 04:42

Why didn't you chase up the things he suggested, it takes 2 to arrange to do something, if he initially suggested, you could have said yes, lets do it, and try to arrange it as a firm plan, but it seems you never did that then waited for him to bring it up again.

Also think you've shot yourself in the foot taking your friends advice to not initiate contact, it's probably come across to him that YOU'RE not interested if you've sat back deliberately waiting on all the contact coming from him, it should be roughly 50-50.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 16/04/2018 04:44

almost yes but speaking as a 40 years old (almost), I have to wonder what interest I could ever have in a 25 year old.

Logically, he’s just not that interested.

Socratease · 16/04/2018 04:45

Agree with PP. Not a good situation. Be happy for the good times you had and make a clean exit to find a new partner who is really into you. A fifteen year age gap would be difficult longer term even if you did really like each other, but this clearly isn’t that.

ScrewYouTalkingTom · 16/04/2018 04:46

@AlmostAJillSandwich - I get that, I do, but I feel like a hypocrite at this stage if I’m honest. As AlmostAJillSandwich said I’ve really shot myself in the foot haven’t I? Confused

@AlmostAJillSandwich - it was 50/50 in the beginning, then slowly became just me, always starting the conversations and though he’d respond he wasn’t as ‘invested’ in conversations like before and I slowly began to get one word answers, sometimes even no response though he’d read what I’d say. I wanted to see if he’d try speaking to me for a change if I stopped and he never did...

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ScrewYouTalkingTom · 16/04/2018 04:48

Sorry @AlmostAJillSandwich I confused your posts and muddled them with other responses!! Grin blame it on being the early hours of the morning

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WS12 · 16/04/2018 04:56

Yes I think you are right when you say he's had his cake and eaten it too. Maybe he's hung on so long and has accepted it's a hook up and yes he has protected himself from feeding... and now maybe he has something else going on in his life, and needs the hook up less than he did before. I would say it speaks volumes that you're chatting less.

Have a good think if a relationship is at all even slightly possible. If you really think that ship has sailed, call it off and keep the colleague relationship. It'd be massively awkward if that was damamged for both of you.

TheDowagerCuntess · 16/04/2018 04:58

Why not just be honest with him?

If he's only contacting you for sex, just say, 'no thanks - I'm not up for a 'just sex' relationship with you, so I think I need to back off'.

That way, if he does actually want more, it's his chance to say as much.

And if he doesn't, at least he'll stop contacting you just for one reason.

Socratease · 16/04/2018 05:02

AlmostAJillSandwich makes very good points, and he may have lost interest because of your previous decisions. Or, maybe he should have been more persistent. I don’t think it matters either way, because I still think the outcome that serves you best would be to not get involved further, in this case and find somebody closer to your age without all the complications, where you can safely invest and open up your hearts to each other.

Also, your developing feelings for him at this stage, in this situation, is more to do with human biology than a response to his virtues (the latter being the precursor to love and what you want, the former something more primitive to do with gene survival). That’s my opinion, anyway.

ScrewYouTalkingTom · 16/04/2018 09:55

Thanks for all the responses, I think the general consensus is this needs to end. But I agree this is down to me mostly! Ah well, it was great whilst it lasted, will teach me to over assume things in the beginning! Blush

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Ginkypig · 16/04/2018 10:24

Sorry if I'm Reading this wrong but from what you have said your not in a relationship with him.

You chat or have chatted online until he couldn't be bothered anymore and met up for sex. There was mentions of dates but you never actually went on any?

If the above is right then I'm sorry but there is not a relationship to end, so yes pull back now. Don't put your feelings aside for the possibility of something to come, see what there is now. Put yourself first and don't allow yourself to be used just for sex (which is all he seems interested in now)

You don't need to be nasty about it just be strong and tell him firmly that your not interested in being a sex arrangement, your quite happy to still be colleagues though.

Also just incase as you both work together, make sure you screenshot and keep copies of all your correspondence, txts, fb messages etc so if things go weird or he becomes nasty especially at work you have evidence of the truth of what went on.

Ginkypig · 16/04/2018 10:28

Just to be clear though! My post isn't a judgemental one!

If sex was all you were interested in I wouldn't have commented as I did because that is just fine if that's what you want but you've said that's not how you feel so I came from the point of protecting your feelings rather than judging your behaviour.

I hope that you didn't think that Blush

Catspaws · 16/04/2018 10:29

Given that you work together and there are other complicating factors (age difference, messy divorce, different expectations etc) I think it would be sensible if you did end it while you're both still friends and can do so without a big falling out.

Maybe in time when he has moved on a bit you can see if there is still something there, but right now it doesn't look like you're on the same page.

Hope you're ok ❤️

Mightymucks · 16/04/2018 10:33

So basically he wanted a relationship and you wanted to keep it as a casual sex thing, you’ve now changed your mind and you want it to be a proper relationship, but you expect him to psychically know this without being told.

You’re being unfair on him because it was quite alright for you to keep it casual when you wanted to, but now he’s doing exactly that you don’t like it. But it’s what you told him you wanted!!

You could tell him what you want and see what he says.

But regardless of who you are in a relationship with you need to stop playing games and learn to communicate properly. You’ll never have a successful relationship if you carry on like this.

Trinity66 · 16/04/2018 10:34

I'd end it I think, him pulling back isn't a good sign

niceupthedance · 16/04/2018 10:35

I agree with Mighty

Fruitcorner123 · 16/04/2018 10:36

If you have feelings for him just tell him. Say that you are no longer happy with just sex and if he wants a relationship you would like to consider going out on more dates. If he doesnt feel thats what he wants he can say .

Chocolate1984 · 16/04/2018 10:36

He wanted to date you & you constantly told him no. You told him you just wanted it to be casual sex & you're surprised that it has become just casual sex? It is what you wanted.

If you want to date him tell him but you can't expect all the chats, dating & emotional investment from him if you are constantly telling him you only want to sleep with him.

SomeKnobend · 16/04/2018 10:39

He doesn't want to chat and spend time and have fun with you any more, now that he can have sex with you without bothering to do any more than contact you giving a time for you to turn up. I'd be hurt already tbh, he's treating you like a blow up doll. Grim. Yes, give him the boot. It's not you, it's him.

Fruitcorner123 · 16/04/2018 10:43

he's treating you like a blow up doll

The OP turned down all his requests for dates and said she just wanted casual sex. It's not fair now to turn this on him. He wanted a relationship and she said no. How is he supposed to know she has now changed her mind?

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 16/04/2018 10:51

People aren’t psychic.

You keep telling him one thing but in your head you’re think of something completely different. It sounds like maybe you’re a bit of an overthinker, which I get because I am too, but at the end of the day people don’t know what’s happening in your head unless you tell them.

SomeKnobend · 16/04/2018 10:52

So if she said no to dates then he doesn't have to contact her, share jokes, treat her like a person? She wanted to keep things casual, she didn't want to be completely ignored except while he was actually fucking her!

DaisyDoo80 · 16/04/2018 10:58

Maybe he's backing off because he has feelings for you too and is afraid of getting hurt?

Instead of ending things, why don't you have an honest chat?

brogueish · 16/04/2018 11:09

You can end the relationship (or however you label it) for any reason at all, at any time. The backstory is irrelevant really, it just sounds as though it's not working for you any more. YANBU.

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