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Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 16:25

A cleaning coach who will first clean your house then diagnose cleaning "problems" eg cluttered, inaccessible etc and duggest solutions based on your needs -eg a cash rich, time poor person who likes a very clean house would be given a schedule of quick tasks and weekly bigger tasks with additional external cleaners, whereas a time rich cash poor person who doesn't mind messy as long as it's clean would be given a totally different schedule which would ensure yhe house was clean and all jobs were done. They could also teach how to clean, declutter and buy furniture with enough storage as well as make the most of the space in their house. Basixally, I wish this had been available when I was struggling with work, kids and lots of cleaning! So, what do you think, what haven't I thought of, and what negayives do you see with this idea. TIA

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Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 16:29

On my phone sorry about typos!

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ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 15/04/2018 16:41

I love this, and need it, but I'm of the cash poor variety so couldn't afford you!!

Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 16:43

Well thank you anyway 😊. I can't afford to set it up either so it might have to stat a great idea!

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whileStatement · 15/04/2018 16:57

People who can afford to have their house and cleaning schedule analysed in such depth can also afford a cleaner who cleans the dirt instead of noticing it.

People know how to clean. The fact there's no real skill involved is demonstrated in the wages that cleaners command.

If this is your idea of for making money then you're well wide of the mark with regard to any kind of business plan. If it was accompanying a cleaning service then it sounds like you're telling people how to get away with the bare minimum. When I employ a cleaner I want the opposite. Are you giving interior design advice?

The market you appeal to you is very jumbled / non-existent.

Hughpughbarneymagrew · 15/04/2018 17:01

I suspect most people without a clean house either don't give a shite, or know exactly what the problem is but lack the time to deal with it and lack the funds to pay a cleaner.
People know how to clean, they just can't or choose not to.

SilverySurfer · 15/04/2018 17:17

Surely it's easier, and cheaper, to hire a cleaner?

Highhorse1981 · 15/04/2018 17:18

Very odd.

No I don’t think it has legs.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 15/04/2018 17:18

If you can afford to hire a cleaner why would you want to learn how to clean?

Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 17:26

Yes as part of a cleaning service. The idea is you still get the cleaner but also syay on top of the daily tasks so it's not overwhelming. There might be help to declutter and manage storage so that cleaning isn't a problem. Thank you all for your feedback, as I said it's just an idea. Cleaning smarter rather than spending hours on dreary tasks. It would also allow people who can't really afford cleaners stay ontop of tasks.

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willynillypie · 15/04/2018 17:35

I don't really understand what you mean - surely someone can see very clearly which areas they need help with? Eg if your washing basket is overflowing you need to do more washing, whereas if your floors are clean they could skip a hoover? I really don't get it

sparklefarts · 15/04/2018 17:40

People who could afford this are more likely to just pay for addition cleaner services tho surely?

That leaves people who can't afford it...

bimbobaggins · 15/04/2018 17:41

You only need to see some of the multiple threads on here where people are drowning and don’t know where to start etc show that not everyone can see what needs cleaned. I think it’s a great idea. Also like an organisation service. I do think there would be a market for it .
Another thing I’d pay for would be someone to come And organiser and pack for my holiday! I’d definitely use that.

You could also post on the housekeeping topic

hibbledibble · 15/04/2018 17:43

I think you need to decide which service you want to offer: either cleaning or decluttering. There is a market for both.

You could offer both services but the wishy washy cleaning schedule in the middle isn't really needed. As someone with a messy house , I know the reason is I don't have enough time to clean it.

PlausibleSuit · 15/04/2018 17:56

I like the consultancy take on a cleaning service; the positioning is quite nice. To a certain market it could appeal.

Two things spring to mind.

First of all, I think for many people it would be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The kind of people who hire a cleaner - like me - think about cleaning is a necessary but unwelcome functional task - like filling the car up with petrol. I already know I'm pressed for time and don't particularly enjoy wielding the Dyson. I don't hire a cleaner because I want to spend more time thinking about cleaning.

Secondly, I think you'd be building high churn and rapid customer obsolescence into the model. You'd be using your expertise to train your own clients how to clean more effectively, and ultimately no longer need your services - possibly within a couple of visits, if I've read your post correctly. In order to make it work, you'd need a continuously high volume of new clients. It would put a lot of pressure on the sales generation end of the business and you'd be forever having to convert large numbers of new clients. For that, read cleaning unfamiliar houses.

I also think you'd struggle to monetise it. You'd have to charge extra (on top of the clean) for the analysis. But the amount of time you'd need to do that analysis versus the amount of money someone would be prepared to pay for it? Not sure you could charge enough on top to make it worth your while.

ScreamingValenta · 15/04/2018 18:03

I'm inefficient at cleaning (haphazard, deciding to clean on the basis of something looking grubby rather than having a timetable), but I think, were I going to hire professional help, I'd rather spend the extra the analysis would cost on additional cleaning sessions by a professional, experienced cleaner.

Someone could probably give me an effective cleaning regime for my house, but that wouldn't make it any easier to stick to Blush.

Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 18:08

Thankyou all for your messages; this is exactly what I was looking for. Now imagne an app that will look at the size of your house, number of kids, amiunt of free time etc and suggest solutions, set up alerts to remind you to do jobs, including seasonal jobs so that every cleaning job got done in tje fastest, most efficient way. It could include daily tips, info etc. Would you like that idea any better.? With an online calculator

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DairyisClosed · 15/04/2018 18:11

Why would I want to think about cleaning when I could just pay someone else to work it out? And if I was poor why would I pay for something that is intuitive? I just don't understand who your target market is.

ScreamingValenta · 15/04/2018 18:14

I'm not really an app user, I'm afraid. I use a paper diary and calendar, with a wipe-clean noticeboard in the kitchen for shopping/task reminders.

And again, my phone beeping at me to 'mop kitchen floor' at 7:30pm on a Tuesday wouldn't necessarily give me the energy to do it if I'd had a crap day at work Sad.

I'd be open to hints, tips and product recommendations, though.

bimbobaggins · 15/04/2018 18:17

The app wouldn’t appeal to me

Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 18:18

Haha fair enough screaming v

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IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 15/04/2018 18:36

What you are suggesting is basically what my cousin did for me after I had become deeply depressed following the death of my dad. She came to the house from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. two days a week and we cleaned and decluttered for two days a week for about three months.

My mother had always been someone who wanted her house to be perfect and would rather do it herself than compromise so although I could stash and dash and get my home ready for visitors I had never really thought about routines or storage and keeping it comfortable for us as a family.

Working alongside my cousin (who was a harsh taskmaster - no tea breaks, sandwiches to be prepared before her arrival in the morning and eaten standing up at lunch time!) I found routines and an understanding of organisation that has honestly changed my life.

So I think it would be a wonderful service for people who could afford it but as others have said perhaps if customers could afford it they would rather employ a cleaner than do it themselves.

As for an app - it sounds useful but what would set it apart from other similar apps such as FlyLady?

Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 18:57

Ithink that was dxactly what I meant- lots of people have frown up in houses with cleaners or just simply do not know where to start. Mix into that children and work/illness/age/laziness and it xan all before overwhelming. Sometimes people just need someone to come in and get it in order then give them a manageable schedule to follow so that they feel in control and on top of things.

Re the app it would give a personalised and specific reading based on the person's lifestyle, habits, needs, house size etc. Anyway I don't have the money/time etc so this is all fantasy business unless a seed investor decides it's a good idea 😂

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Whenwillth1send · 15/04/2018 18:58

Grown not frown 😉

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Bluntness100 · 15/04/2018 19:05

I think you're aiming at a very niche element of society. A group who can afford to pay this but for some reason struggle to work out how to clean their own house or stay on top of it.

I think for many though, it's not know how that's really the problem, it's desire to do it. As yiu will need a high volume of new customers, I'm not sure it's feasible.

In addition there is a geographic element. You can't be travelling all over the uk to do it, the cost burden on the client would be too much. So you're looking fairly local. It's not feasible.

As for an app, no, there is a shed load of free advice on line for anyone who cares to look, in fact you just have to ask on here and dozens of people will help you within minutes.

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