10pm too late for young children?

[MotherofOats]

Upstairs have 2 children 4 and 6. There is no carpet upstairs so I can hear general walking around. I've lived in this flat for a couple of months now and I can hear the children running bouncing and stomping around almost all the time :( recently that home I've noticed it carries on until at least 10 at night. As it was a Saturday I brushed it off but it's carried on for over three weeks now!
Am I being unreasonable to think that a 4 and a 6 year old should be asleep by 10? When I look after my nieces and nephews who are between 2 and 5 and they go to bed latest 8 p.m.!

I imagine it must be very annoying but it's not up to a perfect stranger to dictate when kids go to bed.

Unfortunately noise is part and parcel of living in a flat, especially when you're on the ground floor - I have been there!

Kids do run around, and when you haven't got carpet even just regular walking sounds like the stomping of elephants. They should have carpet up there really.

If noise bothers you don't live in a flat. I am subjected to constant complaints about my 5 and 4 year old sons walking across the floor between 8am and 7pm

Have you carpets? If you don't you should. Most leases on first floor flats say you have to have them - it's why we haven't taken ours up!

My child of that age range isn't necessarily asleep by then but as long as he is quietly resting I tend to turn a blind eye. He has been in bed long before that point. He averages at 10 hours sleep and has always functioned well on less sleep than his older sibling.

It is a reasonable time for adults to go to be or be quietly resting and not want the sound of neighbours banging around unnecessarily.

Oh OP if only life were that simple! :)

Firstly, it could be they've completely relaxed about bedtime because the children are on school holidays and they will revert back to a 'reasonable' bedtime once the children are back at school.

Or...

It could be, they have children that are a nightmare to get to bed. My DD1 who is only 3 seems to need about seven hours sleep a night and that is it!! She will happily still be bouncing around at 10pm and will be up bright and lively between 5 and 6am!

It really isn't as simple as saying children 'should' be in bed by x time.

Hopefully it'll quieten down next week OP once they're back at school.

We live in a ground floor flat and get loads of noise from our upstairs neighbours. All the flats have carpets in the bedrooms but the main room and bathroom are hard floors. It’s noisy, but it’s really not their fault.

Plenty of landlords won’t let you lay carpets, so it’s not up to a lot of tennants. And young children aren’t going to be able to tiptoe about all day. I am teaching my 2 year old about being quiet in places like waiting rooms. We are at the stage that she will copy me whispering for 2 seconds, then stomp off shouting I’M BEING QUIET!

It’s just part of living in a flat. I’d be surprised that kids that age went to bed that late, but I assumed babies would go to bed early too - it hadn’t crossed my mind that sleep patterns would be constantly changing whenever they dropped a nap, for example.

Yes, we have lovely carpets and gorgeous slippers. We sit around the fire every night and sing lullabies. Hope that meets your standards.

Our 4 and 7yo have the room above our front room.

They sound like fucking ELEPHANTS IN CLOGS if they get up for a wee/drink/faff in the evening. And they have carpet and rugs in there. They don't need to be playing a loud game for it to sound very loud downstairs.

Ha ha, they should be, maybe, but if you had tried telling DD2 that at that age, or indeed any age between about 6 months old and now, nearly 13, she would have laughed.

She does not do sleep!

Maybe they have 2 like my DD, or one like my DD and one like my DS, who like me and DP, were kept awake by her.

Flutterbyeee yeah its not helpful at all to basically say move if you aint happy

yeah, i think it'll calm down by next week! She wont tell them to be quiet, i've talked to her once before about noise (at the time i was working nights) and it got worse (the day after i said they got a bouncy ball in the flat......) so fingers crossed!

Everyone saying ‘it’s the Easter Holidays’ OP hasn’t said where she is. All the schools here went back at the beginning of this week.

I would find it incredibly annoying if it was every night but the bedtimes of other people’s children isn’t anything to do with me so would just put up with it. Are they aware you can hear them? They might not be doing anything particularly loud and be oblivious to how much the noise comes through.

Ok, cross posted. Ignore me.

They might not be running or stomping at all. If anyone walks around upstairs here it sounds like a heard of wilder beast and it’s carpeted! Some some flats have no better sound proofing than a terraced house.

If you are renting it, speak to your landlord.

But no, it’s NONE of your business what time other people put their kids to bed. I’m surprised no one has called GF yet as these threads are often posted by people on the wind up.

Mine are up until 10pm in the holidays too (youngest is five). If it’s term time then yeah, it’s too late but there’s not really anything you can do about it.

"aint" - does that mean?

Eastend slang for aren't, but then you knew that didn't you.

this sounds like my neighbours through the wall. they stay up till midnight sometimes, even most weekdays.

they’re up for school at 7 and when they come home they are crying, they cry and scream all evening.

the house is a mess/they hoard and the parents smoke weed.

I think 10pm is late.My ds 4 goes to bed at 7pm.He's allowed later on holidays and Xmas but that's just what we do everyone's different.

If the kids naturally wake up early I could see some parents wanting to sleep in during the holidays when it’s an option. Dd (2) naturally wakes about 7am and is asleep sometime between 7-8pm. I know some kids her age and older who naturally wake about 5am so if you don’t like early mornings I could see keeping them up later in the holidays may be easier.

Before she dropped her nap it was a nightmare, though, as she’d be too tired to go through without a nap, but then not tired enough to sleep until late. I was knackered.

Well I grew up in Hackney. Was there for 21 years. I was also educated. Aint is not a word. Go at me all day long. You will not win a prize.

Flutterbyeee if you're making fun of the way I naturally talk then what's the point of you can being on this thread when all you're going to do is attack me and not the little point I was making at stuff

Anyone who thinks you should move to a house if you don't like the noise from an upstairs flat should also be able to understand the concept of not posting on a thread you don't the main thrust of.

Who spat in your bean curd Flutterbye?

Sincerely, another Hackney Girl Who Is Also Educated But Can Still Recognise The Word Ain't.

Am I being unreasonable to think that a 4 and a 6 year old should be asleep by 10?

Yep. They may be night owls like my DD.

I use to live in a ground floor apartment with neighbours above who had the Worst behaved 4 year old I've ever come across. He was also often up until 11 pm or whenever the fuck he felt like since he clearly ran the show. Running, stomping, screaming, crying, falling, playing with balls and every other noisy toy you can think of, shouting non-stop and it started all over again at 5 to 6 in the morning.

He was a living, breathing advertisement to use birth control. Also the reason I'll never live with neighbours above me again.