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AIBU to say something to this group?

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BubbaB · 08/04/2018 23:20

Just heading to hotel abroad in bus. Everyone is heading to a family resort so lots of young kids on bus. There’s a large group at the back, adults and kids, singing and bawling at the top of their voices. It has been constant for the past 40 minutes (not long to go) and extremely loud. They’ll definitely be getting a few dirty looks from passengers but is it worth saying something to them? I don’t want my holiday ruined by this lot but my usually passive-self is getting fed up with people who don’t consider others!

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WhichHatNextPikachu · 09/04/2018 02:24

It sounds like this as just a bus airport-to-resort transfer. I get that it's annoying, but on a relatively short journey it's not worth making a fuss about it or labelling people as scum

MiddleClassProblem · 09/04/2018 09:25

AjasLipstick that wouldn’t make them “absolute scum” though. That’s an awful term to use for people just singing loudly on a bus.

Jon66 · 09/04/2018 10:43

AjasLipstick about half an hour from our yacht is a lovely little hotel. It's 45 e a night and has the most fabulous little bungalows in a garden/wooded area. Two lovely swimming pools and its run by a Spanish family. They won't speak English to you which is fun and the food is fab. You might find another Brit there, you might not. There are lots of other lovely little hotels around of the same price. They are on the south-west coast and not an English bar in sight. The flight will cost between 20 and 90 quid depending on how far in advance you book it. A hire car for a week will cost 30 quid. Yes, 30 quid. The fact is there is a whole world out there which doesn't consist of being on a coach with a load of rowdy tourists. I'm not being patronising but you are being ignorant and condescending thinking people don't know how to book. It's Europe not Australia, although we have done the same there.

KERALA1 · 09/04/2018 10:49

Don't say anything. My father did in a similar situation only at night and they were drunk and swearing. He asked them not to swear in front of his daughters, one tried to hit him and dad hit him back. My 13 year old sister screamed "stay away from my dad" and joined in. We never went on another package holiday again. Don't get that on French campsites.

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BubbaB · 09/04/2018 14:15

Just catching up with the messages. Amongst the many songs they sang, one was sectarian (wasn’t sure at the time but since found out it is), hence the ‘scum’. It is, of course, wrong to label people that for “singing on a bus”. They were swearing a lot, but not aggressively to each other; it was part of their speech. Not something I want my family to have to listen to, and being on a bus, we couldn’t move away from it. I chose not to say anything re the singing and screeching as I suspected they would think they’re entitled to behave that way and/or be rude/hostile back. Other holidaymakers and my family felt it went beyond “singing and enjoying themselves on holiday”. If I had chosen to say anything, it certainly wouldn’t have been delivered aggressively, I would have asked them to lower their voices. It was so incredibly loud!

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GrandTheftWalrus · 09/04/2018 14:32

Not everyone that sings sectarian songs are scum unless it's a very offensive one.

Some are just songs that a team have taken on and are decreed sectarian.

MiddleClassProblem · 09/04/2018 14:46

I’m guessing it had prejudice lyrics as op had that reactions without knowing the song’s roots.

GrandTheftWalrus · 09/04/2018 14:48

That's what I'm thinking MCP. If offensive lyrics/meanings then yes not nice to sing infront of children etc.

LagunaBubbles · 09/04/2018 14:53

Hard to say without knowing what song it was.

saoirse31 · 09/04/2018 14:54

OTOH if you have to go off and do research to see if something is sectarian or not... Well strikes me as someone looking to be offended ....

was I offended? .. Yep Wikipedia says I should have been

GrandTheftWalrus · 09/04/2018 15:00

I hear football songs all the time and other than the ones we are told are banned I couldn't tell you which ones are sectarian and which ones arent.

Although some people could be arrested for certain songs I think that doing away with the football act in Scotland means they won't be anymore.

However I'm not sure on that.

MissEliza · 09/04/2018 15:07

One song turns out to be sectarian and you had to go and look it up first? What song could that be. I grew up in Glasgow so have heard my fair share of sectarian songs. I'm struggling to think of one where the meaning was ambiguous. You do look like you're looking for a reason to judge these people.

mintich · 09/04/2018 15:40

I wouldn't be impressed by someone singing sectarian songs. Can't believe that Glaswegians on here would think that's ok!

GrandTheftWalrus · 09/04/2018 16:01

I never said it was okay.

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