To think MLM bots need their heads wobbling

[MaisyPops]

I've got some friends (well friends of friends) who I see at group occasions.
One in particular managed to get quite high in an MLM because they jumped on when it first came to the UK. Massive 'team' building and lots of inspirational shares about owning your life, taking back control and how each time you buy from Boots you are giving money to a CEO but each time you buy their crap you are helping a local businessperson get their daughter dance lessons.
They tried another one. It lasted 3 weeks. They've even given up normal jobs with reasonable employment conditions for MLMs because they are a #bossbabe.

Now another MLM is ready to launch and they're pushing this 'exciting new opportunity'.

I can't help but think she needs a massive head wobbling. This is MLM number 3/4 ish. The fact she's jumping on new ones to launch suggests that she might be savvy enough to ensure she gets signed up early and promoted after all the huns join later and fuel her downline. Or is she just so deluded that she's easy pickings for MLMs. Lovely, sociable and naive enough to go from 'health programme 1' and believing 100% in their products to 'health programme 2' because their products are so much better and obviously believing in thr products is how the products 'sell themselves'.

I don't understand how people can say these are anything other than pyramid schemes.

They are shit arent they? To be sucessful you have to join into the cult and recruite more- however deviously.

What do you say to them about it? I told two friends what i thought of mlm who were eventually burned by mlm because they wouldnt become part of the cult or use devious and wrong tactics. 1 friend has become a complete bot though and lives breathes and now even fucks (mlm bot true love apparently) her mlm.

Someone on my facebook claims that Juice Plus cured her anxiety and depression. I want to slap her, she has absolutely no idea what she is on about. And yes, she is a #bossbabe too!

Should be banned. How can they operate!?

If it wasn’t for all the lies and manipulation I would say let them get on with it. However, some of the techniques they employ to sign women up are absolutely hideous and anyone participating needs a metaphorical arse kicking

I'm very very sure that someone I used to have on fb who got into it has finally stopped. She unfriended me about a year or so ago (I think because I started following that anti MLM group) but she gave up her job, got 'the car' etc. I wasnt sure she'd EVER stop tbh! But there's no sign of anything on her public profile that suggests she's into it at all anymore.

Now I've just got to wait for my cousins partner to do the same....

My friend got into this rubbish. She was in a vulnerable place (recent split from DP) and she’s not very savvy.

It started with failed attempts at being a #bossbabe and achieving Financial Freedom- which seemed to require her attebdance at events in evenings and weekends (so losing out on the family time she claimed was the whole reason for not having a regular job). Worse, she’s now into some dodgy crypto currency racket with a group of people she has never met (all on Facebook). They look like something out of a Scorcese film, but that’s just me being prejudiced and judgmental. I am sure they’re lovely.

Apparently she’s going to be a multimillionaire and absolutely cannot lose her money even if the currencies she buys drop in price.

I hate MLMs because they sucked her in with an impossible dream, and have brought her into this shady world of dealing with a group of people she doesn’t know, betting on made up currencies backed by no guarantees whatsoever so they other people can launder money. Anyone who tries to warn my friend is seen as a hater. It’s vile and scary.

I had my first MLM friend approach me with her amazing beauty business recently, I didn’t have the heart to tell her that if I was going to spend £20 on a mascara then I’d go to a fancy department store, not buy it from a “pamper party” in her cramped living room with 10 other women I don’t know!

I have 3 friends into this. Friend 1 was recruited by X and started making so much money she managed to afford a holiday of a life time. She recruited friend 2 who was a sahm with very little money. Friend 2 recruited friend 3 who wanted some extra cash. All of them knew one another. Friend 3 promoted it for about a month before giving up. Friend 2 did it for about 9 months. She spent the whole time making it sound fantastic and telling people how it helped her to afford to buy things for her children. Then one day it just stopped and apparently she'd had a falling out with X and quit. So obviously not do good then. Friend 1 as far as I know is still doing it, although I don't think she is as she's not promoted it for at least 3 or 4 months. She says she is but there's no evidence, unless she's making money through the people who work for her. She does have been quite confused though because her lifestyle has drastically changed since doing it and as far as I am aware she's not come into any money. So perhaps you can make some money from it or perhaps she's just good at pretending.

Regardless I will always steer clear. I've never purchased a single product and I would never sell it. Far too much pressure and also....I like my friends!

I think the ones peddling 'life coaching' and self help are particularly poisonous because of the massive conflict of interest between providing advice to people at the same time as getting them to become bots.

Glad I'm not being awful then.
I generall change the topic but I've been tempted on a number of occasions to show them posts from AntiMLM groups to point out why it's all bollocks.

I'm torn whether to say something and end up on the receiving end of the crap I've seen people on anti MLM threads receieve (e.g. you're just jealous / deleted / ignored at social events) or sit back and wait as they continue to get up at 6am to do getting ready live feeds where they get people to vote which eyeshadow they should wear whilst they keep telling their DC to move out the camera because 'mummy's working'.

YADNBU, OP!

I particularly hate the attitude of “look how much free time I have for my family, so glad I don’t have to put my children into childcare with strangers and then work a 9-5” etc “oh, but please could those working 9-5 use your hard earned money to buy my overpriced rubbish?”

Above quotes are not quite accurate but more or less what my friend said...don’t look down on my employment/childcare choices and then ask for my cash!

I have a fb friend who constantly updates her Facebook with ‘big news coming later’ bossbabe, updates about the 5th new business they’ve taken on blah blah. If it was that good you wouldn’t have a full time job as well.

It mostly seems like you post cryptic posts in local selling groups.

I would suggest they read "Juice plus/mlm lies" on facebook, masses of posts about why mlm's are best avoided.

I got chatting with a kleeneze person a few months ago. They apparently started their business a year ago and will be giving up work in june by which time they expect to be earning 18k a year. I reckon they have done their sums wrong.

Signing up with an mlm seems like a really quick way to loose all your friends.