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To book a room for four when there is five of us?

136 replies

Rainer · 07/04/2018 23:12

That really. We want to be in a room together. The kids would easily fit in to a double bed all three. It's for a night before a flight, with parking for our holiday included and the cost doubles or just isn't available if I say its for five. Wwyd?

OP posts:
Jobjobjob · 08/04/2018 09:36

@snowagain , please could you explain to me the swipe in and out system?

So, family check in and they "swipe" in, five in a four bed room. Then someone says "oh I need more nappies/wine/tights or whatever. They leave the room with one of the DC who wants a walk. So now three people on the room, the other two haven't swiped out as there is no such thing!

So fireman is searching the room can only find three of the four people and then what? Continues searching because there could be four?

Also you are assuming during a fire that no one moves rooms? I think human nature is that you would actually congregate in one common area as the victims in Grenfell did.

I do not for one minute believe that any hotel could stand and give a list of residents who are in the rooms. They could give a booking list but they do not know who is actually in or out.

OP do not listen to the hysteria just do it. I'd be damned if I'd pay for a room to not use it! Also on than point if you are all in the same room anyway when fire broke out they would only still be looking for three of you because the other two would be deemed to be in the other room? You'd be worse off!

Mascarponeandwine · 08/04/2018 09:49

Which airport? A lot of the big airport hotels have rooms for 5 (thinking of Sofitel at Gatwick), and the regional airport hotels often have interconnecting rooms.

savagebaggagemaster · 08/04/2018 09:51

@snowagain - we only ever use one keycard anyway. Who would give keycards out to children when checking in? Hmm

Frazzled2207 · 08/04/2018 10:13

Sounds very reasonable to me.

Sprogletsmuvva · 08/04/2018 10:15

The only situation IWBU is if breakfast was included (and on a ‘kids eat free ‘ deal would really be taking liberties).

The discussion about fire situations reminds me of fire drills at my university college. These would be done individually for each accommodation block, in the early hours, with a roll-call of names. A Of course, a fair proportion of rooms would be empty , while others had 2 occupants. Good fun for checking out your friends’ secret hook-ups (“Simon and Jane...?! well well...), fairly useless for predicting who was in there in an actual fire. Being the 1990s, the college was hardly likely to start laying down the law on sleeping arrangements to a bunch of 16-23yos.

MiddleClassProblem · 08/04/2018 10:43

@snowagain

But you missed every other valid example.

snowagain · 08/04/2018 10:52

Some serious lack of joined up thinking on this thread....... (Or people are just fucking arguing for the sake of it.)

What if someone goes out and doesn't 'SWIPE' out? Confused

What if someone hooks up?

blah blah blah..........

Lots of hyperbole and embellishment coming out from some on here (and not me!)

What if someone hooks up and takes them back to their room?

If someone hooks up with someone, and takes them back for a shag to their room (without the receptionist seeing!) there is a risk of that person not being rescued if there is a fire because they will not be on record as being there. (Are you people not reading what I said in my last post?!!!! Asking that is only proving my argument to be right. It's not proving the opposite!!!)

@jobjobjob

So, family check in and they "swipe" in, five in a four bed room. Then someone says "oh I need more nappies/wine/tights or whatever. They leave the room with one of the DC who wants a walk. So now three people on the room, the other two haven't swiped out as there is no such thing!

So, family check in and they "swipe" in, five in a four bed room. Then someone says "oh I need more nappies/wine/tights or whatever. They leave the room with one of the DC who wants a walk. So now three people on the room, the other two haven't swiped out as there is no such thing!

So fireman is searching the room can only find three of the four people and then what? Continues searching because there could be four?

This is such a pointless scenario. All it proves is that if the firemen thought there were 4 people in the room, and only 3 were there (coz 2 had gone for walkies!) that they would keep searching. Of course they would. Doesn't make it any less likely that someone NOT REGISTERED TO THE ROOM, could get left to burn to death if the hotel and the fire brigade thought only 4 people were in a room when there were 5! So your little scenario makes ZERO sense. Hmm

And why the hell would the hotel 'swipe' 5 into a room made only for 4. Hotel should not be doing that. And most hotels WON'T. Again you don't make sense.

OP go ahead and book the room for 2 adults and 3 kids if you want to, (and pretend there are only 2 kids,) but don't try and pretend (like some of the individuals on here) that there would be no risk if there was a fire, and there were only TWO of your children recorded.

Don't pay any attention to some of the guff people are coming out with on here. Some people just like to argue, and cannot admit there would be a risk.

@savagebaggagemaster

snowagain - we only ever use one keycard anyway. Who would give keycards out to children when checking in? Hmm

Yeah I am not buying that either. As if each child would be given a keycard each. Wink

As I said, the OP should not take many of these posts very seriously. However, do take the ones seriously that are warning you there is a risk to your family, if they're not all declared on the booking, and there is a serious fire in the middle of the night.....

Make the booking with one child undeclared by all means, but don't try and kid yourself that there are no risks in doing this...........

I'm out of this thread. Can't handle the crap some people are coming out with, the deliberate attempts to argue, and the terrifying denial from some.

soulrider · 08/04/2018 10:56

Sprogletsmuvva - always used to be amusing to watch the embarrassed huddle of blokes when our female halls of residence had a middle of the night fire alarm.

MiddleClassProblem · 08/04/2018 11:02

It’s not denial, it’s just a realistic view of how a hotel is used. Any busy hotel will have an amalgamation of these things going on.

Also how does swiping in mean anything? It doesn’t tell you when someone leaves or just opens the door to check something/grab a paper etc which happens again, all the time!

Of course they would give firefighters a pro t out of who is likely to be in the hotel but as pp said firefighters know how a hotel is used.

Jobjobjob · 08/04/2018 11:04

@snowagain you need to learn to listen to perfectly reasonable reasons why your scenarios are rubbish! Stop swearing and stop using unnecessary capital letters.

You're coming across as unreasonable, aggressive and frankly stupid. Because your brother works at a travelodge does not mean he or you are an expert. Also, if you are trying to say a travelodge is a decent hotel because your brother chucks people out, think again, they are a cheap budget hotel.

JaniceBattersby · 08/04/2018 11:05

snowagain honestly, you are wrong. My ‘firefighter spouse’ has been a firefighter for 22 years. I’ll tell him he’s making it all up and should defer to you, who has a relative who works in a travelodge, shall I?

Jobjobjob · 08/04/2018 11:10

@JaniceBattersby I think you're wasting your breath! Snow knows everything about hotels, fire services and evacuation procedures. Absolutely an expert on it all.

RepealMay25th · 08/04/2018 11:14

If the systems are showing that rooms x y z are swiped as 'in' and four people are booked into room x, the firefighters will go to room x, look for and if necessary, pull out 4 people. If you're all unconscious, who tells them that there should also be a toddler in the party to look for?

You can't actually believe that is how it works? Like, you're not messing with us all? Laughing here at the very thought!

Buzzlightyearsbumchin · 08/04/2018 11:24

Lots of hyperbole and embellishment coming out from some on here

I would agree with that Grin

IWouldLikeToKnow · 08/04/2018 11:48

Hmmm, when I go to a hotel with my husband and son, we don't all swipe in and out. One card swipes us all in. Hotel has no idea how many of us are in the hotel at any one time. I can't see a fire fighter saying , ok, we've got 3 out of this room, let's not look any more Hmm

RepealMay25th · 08/04/2018 11:49

I can't see a fire fighter saying , ok, we've got 3 out of this room, let's not look any more

Or we've only got 2 and it says three, lets stay here until we burn to death looking for another one!

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 08/04/2018 11:56

Yep

Weve done it many times

Now they are bigger we have to book two rooms as they refuse to share a bed...really annoying

MrsLaurac · 08/04/2018 12:00

Is it right, no. But i have and will do again. Wouldn't if it was all inclusive or something but a kid being snook into an hotel im sure it won't hurt x

Downthepubofcourse · 08/04/2018 14:42

MrsLaurac possibly it doesn’t hurt no..... but I have a business to run and my family to feed. We limit the children in a room because they cause a lot of wear and tear, and use the facilities as much as an adult. We charge for kids. Not much but we do charge, and for that they get a service. We charge for adults, and dogs too. You are not cheating a faceless bureaucrat when you cheat at my hotel, but you are cheating me. Stealing from me.

boredofwaitingagain · 08/04/2018 14:48

I've got 4 children. We just told them that we had an extra child on check in and they brought in a roll up bed for her. No issue.

agentdaisy · 08/04/2018 15:38

If you don't want to sneak an extra child in then try phoning the hotel direct instead of using the online system. We were going to a wedding and had 3 dcs under 4, we tried booking a Premier Inn online but it only went up to 4 people. We rang them and explained that we had 3 young children but just wanted one room with them being so little and they were fine with it. We had a room with a double bed, 2 singles and a cot for the baby.

constantflux · 08/04/2018 15:51

If firemen can't function in a search without a neat little list of who is in the building, then I wonder how they cope in a house fire? Or a fire in a public building like a train station or library? Is it beyond the realms of people's imagination that they would disregard any register of occupants produced by the hotel and follow their usual methodical search procedures, knowing that there could be any number of people in the building no matter what a piece of paper says. Give them some credit for pity's sake.

It's like the argument for having baby on board stickers on cars, where a mythical baby is thrown from the car or trapped within the wreckage and without the sticker the hapless emergency services don't know to look for them. Completely daft.

RedForFilth · 08/04/2018 16:25

I think if you don't want the expense of a family of five then you shouldn't have had a family of 5. Won't be a popular opinion though. I'm from a family of 5 and my parents lived within their means for a family of 5.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 08/04/2018 16:29

Nothing to do with cost in our case red

RedForFilth · 08/04/2018 16:37

No it's to do with hotel policy surely?