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Why Lorry drivers do this?

75 replies

NotTheFordType · 05/04/2018 21:40

I do a lot of motorway miles. I've noticed recently in a few tailbacks I've got caught in, Lorry drivers pulling out from lane 1 to lane 2. Not just a few individuals, but what looked like 40% of the hgvs that were originally in lane 1.

Is there some sort of secret or widely held belief that lane 2 always moves faster?!

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DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 06/04/2018 19:11

Evening all.
The mile long overtake: it takes 90 seconds to travel 100 metres at 2 mph. We need to push hard because an extra mph can save 15 minutes driving time over the day.
Not moving over at slip roads: we have no room as we're being overtaken on the right. Or you're driving an arschlochwagen and hooting at us. Remember, the joining traffic MUST give way to traffic on the major road.
Getting caught in traffic and running out of hours: it happens. If you make a manual printout on the spot and give details, you might be OK. If you make a habit of it...no.
The bosses don't give a shit: I don't work for that sort. Most firms don't run bent now, because it's too easy to get caught.
Ban us from overtaking: certain sections are like this. Mostly it's long hills. Otherwise, good luck getting off and on at an exit.
Any other questions?

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2018 19:23

There have been LOADS of occasions when I have tried to join the motorway when lorries haven't moved over and there were no other vehicles in the other two lanes at all. Confused
I know it's my responsibility to join the motorway safely but if they are able to do so it wouldn't hurt for the lorry to move over.
My friend's DH is a long distance lorry driver so have had loads of lessons/lectures about trucking over the years.Grin

Kelsoooo · 06/04/2018 19:32

Yeah a question, why the fuck do they pull out on you all the time? Roundabouts, junctions.... if they can see a car approaching wheee they are on a roundabout why do they still pull out? Because all that happens then is, the car has to break or avoid a collision

Mawalls · 06/04/2018 20:01

Lorries never seem to move out of lane 1 to let people pull from the slip road onto the motorway, there must be a reason for that too.

You see those give way lines? Jeezus. cannot believe people are complaining about them not moving over, you can go faster or slower much easier than they can and their blind spots and liklihood of sideswiping someone is much higher

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2018 20:09

Yes I do see the give way lines.Hmm Also as a considerate motorist I can see people wanting to pull onto the motorway. So if it is safe to do so I will move over to help.
I have now remembered that a lot of posters on MN think that is wrong for some reason.
I will of course stop doing that now. Wink

Mawalls · 06/04/2018 20:39

Wow, do you this at all give ways? Very strange logic, the person who has to give way should just drive straight into traffic and the one with priority should check 80ft of lorry and blindspot at 70mph and move over within seconds of seeing the car

sure sounds safe Wink

starzig · 06/04/2018 20:46

It's the tailgating that gets me. Often have lorries drive about 1ft behind me.

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2018 20:48

the person who has to give way should just drive straight into traffic

Doesn't sound v safe to me at all.

Mawalls · 06/04/2018 21:19

is fine, everyone will just change lanes for you!

SeamstressfromTreacleMineRoad · 06/04/2018 21:55

When on a M-way, as I approach a junction, I know that there will (usually) soon be a slip road where traffic from the junction will be joining the M-way. I therefore - if possible - move into lane 2 after passing the slip road taking traffic off at the junction, let the traffic joining the M-way filter into the free lane, then either overtake (if they are travelling at a lower speed) or indicate and re-join lane 1. The traffic all keeps flowing, no-one gets fraught, and we all go on our merry way... Grin

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2018 21:56

is fine, everyone will just change lanes for you! Eh?

That's all wrong apparently Seamstress.

Mawalls · 06/04/2018 21:59

Ahh, I see

So now, The lorry driver is to move into lane 2 so that the vehicle entering has to move from lane 1 into lane 3 to overtake the limited to 62mph lorry then both vehicle move back to lane 1 and 2

Its like a ballet, so exciting

Thats how I want my motorways, as much lane switching as possible, would be awful if the 70mph car had to speed up or slow down for 2 seconds instead

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2018 22:02

It's a bit difficult to join the motorway at 70mph when the lorries and other traffic are nose to tail in lane 1 with no gap and not going anywhere near 70.

Not really like ballet, no. Confused

piercinggelo · 07/04/2018 00:14

It's the tailgating that gets me. Often have lorries drive about 1ft behind me.

That's a real indication you are not going fast enough!

BoneyBackJefferson · 07/04/2018 00:52

starzig
It's the tailgating that gets me.

If you are on a motorway and this is happening then the problem is you.

Sparklingbrook · 07/04/2018 05:40

Not necessarily. if the motorway is really busy and all the lanes are going more or less the same speed (and nowhere near the speed limit generally) for some reason tailgating seems to be the norm, but not just lorries.

Psychobabble123 · 07/04/2018 05:50

It's the tailgating that gets me. Often have lorries drive about 1ft behind me

Christ, how slow are you driving?! Shock

Sparklingbrook · 07/04/2018 06:04

I would love to drive on these motorways where all the traffic whizzes along at the speed limit. Envy

Silvercatowner · 07/04/2018 06:25

*It's the tailgating that gets me. Often have lorries drive about 1ft behind me.

That's a real indication you are not going fast enough!*

50 mph speed limit on rammed motorway, driving through roadworks. Drivers generally trying to maintain some semblance of a reasonable stopping distance except the pillock in the huge articulated lorry behind me, driving (seemingly) a foot from my back bumper. How could I have gone faster??

Sparklingbrook · 07/04/2018 06:29

Exactly Silver.

I am off to work now. I will of course now be adopting the 'every man for himself' motorway driving technique. No moving over for anyone. Wink

FindoGask · 07/04/2018 06:39

Seamstress that's what I do too if I can. Or if I'm already in lane 2, I try to give cars in lane 1 enough room to pull out if they need to.

Springnowplease · 07/04/2018 07:04

It's the arrogance of some lorry drivers than causes accidents. They seem to think that if they indicate everyone should just move out of their way.

One nearly took us out a couple of months ago. We had begun to overtake him when he just indicated and began to pull out. Cars at speed behind us and in lane 3 and nowhere for us to go. DH blasted the horn which brought the driver to his senses and he pulled back in.

Then he started gesturing and swearing as we went past. We have a dash cam and sent the footage to his firm and the police.

piercinggelo · 07/04/2018 08:49

50 mph speed limit on rammed motorway, driving through roadworks

You didn't mention that. You just said they were tailgating. If you don't tell anyone the circumstances under which the lorry was tailgating then of course people will naturally assume you mean under normal conditions.

ForalltheSaints · 07/04/2018 09:10

Lorry drivers being inconsiderate is well down my list of people who offend on motorways.

Those who use the second lane and never go into the first top mine, even when empty, are people who I wish could be banned from driving for a long time.

Springnowplease · 07/04/2018 09:14

Lorry drivers being inconsiderate is well down my list of people who offend on motorways.

You'd probably feel differently if one nearly killed you with his stupidity.

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