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To think that crap isn't a swear word?

25 replies

Whenwillth1send · 05/04/2018 08:05

Or if it is, it's a very mild one? As "Craps" is a casino game, and crap is a description of excrement, surely it's not in the same league as the other C word?

crap
[krap]
NOUN
something of extremely poor quality.
excrement.
VERB
defecate.
(crap on)
talk at length in a foolish or boring way.
ADJECTIVE
BRITISH
extremely poor in quality.
synonyms: substandard · poor · inferior · second-rate · [More]

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FourEyesGood · 05/04/2018 08:09

It’s a mild swear word. I don’t allow it in my classroom, but I don’t punish as I would for fuck or bastard.

shockedballoon · 05/04/2018 08:10

I wouldn't call it a 'proper' swear word and I don't find it offensive, but if I heard DS (8) saying it it wouldn't quite sit right and I'd pull him up on it to look for a better word. Which is massively hypocritical of me as if have no qualms about using it in adult conversation.

VioletteValentia · 05/04/2018 08:11

I don’t think it’s a swear word either.

Returnofthesmileybar · 05/04/2018 08:13

Not a swear word in my world and I have no problem with the kids using it either, and they aren't allowed to swear at all, I just never thought of it as a swear word, until now

Coulddowithanap · 05/04/2018 08:13

It is a mild swear word. I wouldn't be happy hearing my children say it but don't think twice if an adult says it.

GummyGoddess · 05/04/2018 08:14

It's not a word for polite conversation but probably not swearing. I'd hate to hear my toddler say it, but I'd also hate him saying oh my god even though we're not religious.

HoppingPavlova · 05/04/2018 08:15

I don’t consider it a swear word, have always been happy for the kids to use it. I find whenever they have used it though it tends to be “crappy” which is odd as both DH and I use “crap”.

suckysnow · 05/04/2018 08:16

Like others, I would hate DS or his friends to say it, but wouldn’t even notice it with other adults. Wouldn’t say it to an old lady either mind, so I guess it has its place!

Whenwillth1send · 05/04/2018 08:16

It does sound worse when it's children talking, doesn't it? I can't bear my children swearing. However, I think this one is used by adults regularly in all sorts of situations and often hear it on TV.

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RatOnnaStick · 05/04/2018 08:18

It's mildly offensive swearword, on the same level as bloody hell or shit because we use it in the same way (oh bloody hell/crap! What a load of shit/crap).

I've caught my 7yr old using it in context this week and he was told it's not acceptable and find a non-poo word instead. Mind you, I had to stop my 5yr old using his new made-up word 'slumbum' at people ShockHmmGrin.

bonnyshide · 05/04/2018 08:19

I do think it's a swear word, I know others don't, but I was raised to see it as one.

When I hear others dropping it in conversation I'm always a bit taken aback, as to me it's the same as 'shit' so if a young child was using it freely I would see that as inappropriate.

HoppingPavlova · 05/04/2018 08:19

We had an interesting experience with ‘damn’ also. Certainly don’t consider that a swear word either and one day when young one of the kids came home from school and said the teacher told them it was a swear word and not to use it. Obviously we said teachers room teachers rules but as an fyi teacher is wrong damn it.

LiquoriceTea · 05/04/2018 08:19

Same as shit really isnt it? Neither of like to hear from my kids.

Strugglingtodomybest · 05/04/2018 08:22

I wasn't allowed to say it as a child but I think nowadays it's not seen as being so bad. I'm sure I heard it said on kids tv.

RatOnnaStick · 05/04/2018 08:24

Hopping I've had that with damn but from my mil who is the most mild mannered lovely person you could meet. Ds1 used it, I pulled him up and said choose something else and he said "but nanny uses it all the time" and thinking back, she does.

I can't think why I don't notice her saying it but out of the mouth of my children it's unacceptable. The rules of acceptable swearing are more complicated than it seems.

BeyondThePage · 05/04/2018 08:26

Don't want my kids using it here - it is really just the same as s**t.

BethSenior · 08/04/2018 22:09

My children, children age ranges 24, 22,18, 16, 13, 11, 6 and 18 months, many children but even the oldest children will not swear in front of me. I will not and have never tolerated it. Not a “fart” or a “crap”.
Even at 24, my eldest would expect a rollicking! That said, I was in the Navy so I swear like a sailor! It’s all about respect

worstwitch18 · 08/04/2018 22:17

Crap is used a lot in normal conversation but I wouldn't use it at work or around children (and would be taken aback if I heard it from a child).

I would say it's a mild swear word.

The word damn is interesting as there are contexts it can used in regular conversation e.g. "it was a damning verdict from the judge." But if someone said "damn you" that's pretty strong. It's a word that I certainly wouldn't aim at anyone.

worstwitch18 · 08/04/2018 22:18

Although unlike pp I wouldn't consider "fart" a swear word. Informal certainly, and therefore not to be used in formal situations, but not a swear word.

Aragog · 08/04/2018 22:20

I'd call it coarse language rather than swearing. Not for polite company. Not for use in a professional setting, nor for the classroom. I wouldn't want my child using it in day to day language. It's not a word I particularly like though, so maybe biased. But I also don't really swear either, so somewhat unusual for MN from what I've gathered over the years.

0h · 08/04/2018 22:21

I'd call it a swear word. Mild, but still sweary.

I don't let my DC use it and I don't use it in front of my parents. I'm in my 30's but don't swear in front of them. Blush

I'd just tell off my children if they used it while I'd dole out a punishment for 'fuck' or 'slag'.

ipswichwitch · 08/04/2018 22:22

DH firmly believes fart is a swear word, but I don’t (we grew up in different parts of the country), so I can’t get myself all bent out of shape of the kids say it, but he really hates it and will give them a talking to.

Aragog · 08/04/2018 22:22

I don't see the word 'fart' in quite the same context. I see that as being more informal language, rather than coarse, again not something I'd encourage in front of grandparents particularly, but I hear it regularly as school and out an about,

DollyMcDolly · 08/04/2018 22:26

I let DS say fart. If my mum heard him she would be horrified. It's better than 'pump' which is what I used to have to say

LiquoriceTea · 09/04/2018 08:14

Mine have said fart before in front of some (older) friends of ours who were horrified. They were quite factual though about the fact one or other of them had farted. Im not sure what else you say! I'm certainly not teaching them some twee euphemism!

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