To think a lot of Mums read Why Mummy Drinks except we aren't middle class

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So therefore working class parents would just be judged as chavs? If it's on Jeremy Kyle it's car crash, if you're a middle class instamum it's ok. Most of us (I'd guess) are somewhere inbetween but actually doing ok despite the constant angst.

I don’t understand?

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Do you mean if wc mums were to drink as much as the main character they'd be judged? Sorry bit unclear

I don't understand? Are you referring to the book? If so it's a rubbish book.

I've not read it but it sounds like trash. You are wrong OP. The Prosecco and Gin club (wealthy women or those comfortably off who do nothing but talk about having their next drink) are not admired. The same goes for women who sit around in their PJs all day drinking lager out of a can.
The book is trying to validate excessive drinking. Horrible.

Yanbu, I was thinking something very similar myself the other day. It’s all done to what you have and how much you have. The more you have the less harshly you are judged

I haven't read it, but get what you mean. Middle class mummies tinkling about needing a gin once Quentin has gone to bed is a-ok. Drinking is glamorised amongst certain sets and demonised in others.

Is it like that Peter and Jane / Unmumsy Mum / Hurrah for Gin shit? I was just looking at Highgate Mums. It just irritates the hell out of me.

Sorry. To be clear, I guess I'm talking about gin drinking mum's muttering 'Fuck my life' with witty reposts as opposed to drinking Stella and being judged

Do you mean that it's seen to be more acceptable if you're a middle class gin drinker, and almost humorous, than it is to be a lower or working class parent with a bottle of lambrini?

I think you’re being a bit dramatic OP. Cathy down the working mans club necking rum and cokes vs Catherine in the cocktail bar getting smashed on elderflower and rhubarb gin = the same

Jeremy Kyle= people with serious drug and mental health issues who’ve shagged their sister and want a lie detector to prove the baby isn’t theirs. Not really comparable

I couldn't agree with this more. The post from some mum, pic of her gin in a balloon glass whilst 3 kids in the background are giving the dog a mud bath 'hurrah for alcohol". OH SHE'S SO RELATABLE. Cue 100s of comments from others along the lines of 'Wine O Clock soon' etc. It's not even the drinking it's the cringeworthy attempt at being 'anti-parent' as if it's rebellious. It isn't.

Reminds me of all the Pimms/sports day threads that pop up on MN once a year.

I always imagine most of the same posters would shit a brick if they witnessed Dave from the council estate necking cider in the park while his children played on the swings.

I don't care either way but there is definitely hypocrisy surrounding the subject.

DO you think? I’m amazed you think anyone would give a shit if Dave drank at the playground. I love boozing, I generally use public drinking as a way of identifying my peoples

I've just got this from the library and have yet to read it so looking forward.

Ok. Wow. Doesn't matter. Some pretty extreme views. Some like myself. Some polar opposites. No problem.

sprinkles

This is true of most things.

Take drugs. If an aristo has a drug problem, they're glamorous and interesting. If a pleb has a drug problem, they're scum of the earth.

Having money/social capital puts a different lens on everything.

I feel the same as you OP. I read this book and I did enjoy it, however couldn’t relate at all. Lines like ‘I had a couple of thousand more than I thought in the bank rather than a couple of thousand less’

Can’t remember the last time I had a couple of thousand in the bank PERIOD.

Don’t get me started on the constant drinking and being able to go out every weekend with wonderful middle class friends while someone else watches the kids. My last night out was August.

I want to write one for poor people

Yeah I feel uncomfortable with the Hurrah for Gin / Pimms at sports day stuff.

As pp says being wealthy / MC puts a different edge on everything. Filthy MC children? Probably been out being worthy, National Trusting etc. Grubby chavs? Urgh neglected. Ramshackle, filthy grade 2 listed home? Laaaaahvly upbringing, too busy ebjoying life to clean. Slightly untidy council house? Slattern.

MC it’s centre parks

Chavs it’s butlins

I agree op. I recently read Why Mummy Drinks and really enjoyed it, but couldn't figure out why she felt so driven to drink. She seemed to Have a charmed life - easy part time job, no money problems, healthy happy kids, loving husband, support from parents and friends. I guess it's all relative and she must have lived in an affluent area - her descriptions of school mums didn't ring true for me.