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To wonder why Labour have never had a woman Leader..

14 replies

crunchymint · 02/04/2018 17:58

when the Conservatives have had two who have become Prime Minister. What it is about Labour that means even today they have never had a woman Leader?

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Babdoc · 02/04/2018 18:04

Why would you ever expect Labour to treat women as potential leaders?
They’re happy to throw women under the bus while courting the trans vote. Labour grew out of a traditional male chauvinist trade union movement. There’s a lot of pious talk about equality and women’s rights, but it’s all just lip service.

catgirl1976 · 02/04/2018 18:07

Because they are (currently at least) hugely misogynistic. Wimmen are good for delivering leaflets and that's about it.

crunchymint · 02/04/2018 18:09

There is plenty of misogyny in the Conservative party though?

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ThickSocksWoolyHat · 02/04/2018 18:15

We have had a labour MP & labour council lead council for years. One of our biggest housing estates is being knocked down for private build &"affordable housing" reducing the housing stock even more.

Bluelady · 02/04/2018 18:15

What Babdoc said.

BubblesBuddy · 02/04/2018 18:21

Women are not truly in the Corbyn cabal. They have their uses but they don’t command the respect of the Trots. A bit like Jews.

caroldecker · 02/04/2018 18:30

The conservatives tend as a party to be pragmatists. The Labour party tend to be idealists. This is why they are rubbish in power and have the current issue with misogyny and anti-semitism. They believe they are right and good, therefore everything they think is right and good and anyone who disagrees must be wrong and evil.

Coastalcommand · 02/04/2018 18:31

Can you think of a great one who wanted to be Prime Minister or leader but didn’t get the chance?

honeysucklejasmine · 02/04/2018 18:35

coastal I think the issue is they would never rise high enough for us to hear of them, which is the point. Unless you honestly think that there has not been a single female labour MP ever who had the ability to be PM.

PoshPenny · 02/04/2018 18:37

My impression is that the Labour Movement is full of misogynistic old dinosaurs and their cronies who will thwart women from progressing up the greasy pole at every possible opportunity. I have intense respect for the ones that have risen to high levels. The modern Labour Party women perhaps just can't be bothered to play the ridiculous silly games and just move on and do other things because Life Is Too Short To Put Up With That Crap. I just feel that deep down there is still the feeling amongst too many influential men within the Party that women should be at home raising kids and running the household, maybe having a little job to earn a bit of pin money. I'm amazed things really haven't changed much in the almost 40 years since the first woman prime minister was elected.

crunchymint · 02/04/2018 18:39

I have met some brilliant women Labour MPs

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NewYearNewMe18 · 02/04/2018 18:39

Because working class men like to keep women in their place. preferably barefoot, pregnant and attached to the kitchen sink with several kids in tow. The pseudo middle class socialists that have infiltrated the Labour party are too concerned with quotas rather than any capable talent, anyone with half a functioning brain has left.

InfiniteSheldon · 02/04/2018 18:44

Misogynistic brocialists run the Labour Party to benefit themsekves that excludes women, the Conservatives work on the principle that any who works hard enough will flourish that excludes many disadvantaged through birth, illness and disability. Neither party really works but women will always do better with the Tories: sex isn't a handicap.

scrabbler3 · 02/04/2018 19:01

The party thinks it can do what it likes because it will always be Good and the Tories will always be Bad.

If there were a GE tomorrow they'd get over a third of the vote because some people have bought into this. They would be prepared to overlook Labour's misogyny and anti Semitism to get May out of No.10.

And as a pp said, some traditional w/c voters don't care about equality. I know old men who drink in the Labour club in an ex mining town who don't think that women should be allowed to fly planes or referee men's football matches, so they're hardly going to care that the shadow PM isn't female.

I've no idea whom I'd vote for if there were a GE now. Labour are grim and I don't like what the Cons are doing to disability benefits and tax credits. They're the only two options in my constituency, these two would probably get >90% of the vote between them!!

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