To ask what does an office manager earn vs a business manager.

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And what's the difference is duties.

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Absolutely impossible to say as every company will define the role differently.

I'm noticing this too op.

Same responsibilities, different title, massive difference in salary.

I was an office manager, Berkshire £27k

You got me interested now. What is the difference?

Is office manager an admin and business manager outward facing with clients?

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Good point. That's what I thought.

From the job specs I've seen a business manager tends to do a bit of finance stuff and an office manager doesn't. Maybe 30-35k business manager and 25k office manager? (SE)

Generally, an office manager manages the administrative side so others can do the function of the business. Duties would be making sure the office bills are paid, everyone has the appropriate equipment, managing admin staff. For example, in an accountancy firm, they would make sure the rent was paid and manage receptionists, but they would do no accountancy themselves. A business manager is usually involved in the strategic direction of a company and in charge of delivering the performance/growth of the business to investors, as well as growing the business etc. Usually they have MBAs or other advanced business qualifications as well as qualified in whatever the company delivers. So for a law firm, they will be a lawyer, but manage how the firm grows, takes on clients, and delivering returns for the partners. That’s why there is such a massive difference in pay.

But this is massively generalised. There is no set definition, and can vary wildly. Best to look at the JD and skills required.

I have a job that is titled office manager but I feel.its business manager. The job spec though was administrative. Was a start up position and even the director said he had no clue what the job entailed at the time. We are both aware now and I'm going for a review on Tuesday. I'll state I think it's business manager and definitely not just administrative. Top end office manager at lowest I think. Bottom end business manager.

Business manager deals with sales , commercial and contracts I assume

Office manager deals with office space , events , suppliers , meeting rooms etc

The former earns more money

I would consider both job titles to be generic and wide ranging. So if you're looking for a pay rise, I'd focus more on "I do all these things that are outside the scope of my current role" or "I've taken on all these additional responsibilities" - don't worry so much about what the role is called(unless your company has strict pay scales for types of job).

All very informative. Thank you all.