To wonder what would happen if every council tenant had their tenancy reviewed

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Life time tenant or not. Everyone was reviewed and income taken into account when calculating rents. Would this free up housing stock for those in need?

"People might also want to brush up on their social history"

I don't think it matters what the history was. We live in the here and now, and it's no longer tenable for somebody to expect to occupy a large 3/4 bed house for 25+ years after their own kids grow up and leave home when there are families living in one bed flats.

And yes on lifetime tenancy is on people not the home home.
We have lifetime, got it in 2002 for our 2 bed flat we moved into with our baby.
14 year lated ds becomes disabled and cant get up or down the 5 flights of stairs to our home so we got a move to a house, keeping our secure tenancy.

Our old neighbour got downgraded from a four bed to a two bed but kept her lifetime too. And why shouldn't she?

You are aware that the social housing problem isn’t the same everywhere in the country don’t you? They still give them to single men and working families here.

I know a couple who have a 5 bed housing association house, there are only 2 children left at home, she claimed for years that she was a single parent and claimed all the relevant benefits, somebody on the estate grassed them up a couple of years ago and they had to pay back nearly 25 grand, sorry I'm digressing.
He is a well known builder locally and has his own business, she has set up her own business which has her out of the house 8-5 and some evenings. They have a fortune coming in and could easily afford to buy a property but they won't because their rent is £525.00 a month.

I am a full time carer and a single parent to disabled DS in a privately rented damp property with electric storage heaters that don't work, my housing benefit pays £670.00 of my rent, I top up the other £230.00 a month, it's not much but it's crippling me.

I saw a housing officer last week and broke down in tears because I can't carry on as I am, I have been bidding for months on properties but don't stand a chance as I'm in band D (I'm classed as adequately housed) he told me that the council simply cannot help me, I'm housed.

I got in touch with my Health Visitor who has referred me to social services, I had a call from a social worker on Wednesday and explained my situation, she was amazing and is paying me a home visit to see if we are indeed adequately housed. House is riddled with damp and has no central heating, DS has considerable health problems.

To move to another privately rented property I would have to find over 2 grand which I don't have, I'm stuck.
Yes, people who live in housing association properties should be means tested every 5 years and moved to smaller properties if necessary or have their rent raised to bring it in line with local private rented properties which would bring in a huge amount of money to build more social housing.

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And shock horror if you get your 2 month notice to quit here in a private let you’re given a council house without having to wait to be evicted.

Like another world isn’t it?

which would bring in a huge amount of money to build more social housing

You really think that money would go to build more housing?

The last time the pay to stay was drumming up speed, that extra money was to go straight to central government. Not back into housing.

So no, nice plan but no cigar.

Where I live the rent isn’t much different in council housing as it is private. I am in a council house (HA) and my rent is quite high. Quite a few people on my road now have no children living at home but still live in their 3 bed HA house, they are offered smaller houses when they become available but they are not forced to take them, one moved out a few months ago as she was living alone in a 3 bed, a young family now have the house.

My great aunt lives in a large 3 bed, 2 toilet, 2 reception room council house with a 120ft garden in a very expensive area. Worth around 450k. She lives there alone. And has lived there for over 40 years on a single persons rent. It’s crazy. She can’t manage the house and should 100% be in a little bungalow.

Why every 5 years drained

People will find ways round it in order to stay

And where are these smaller properties you speak of?

And what's a 'single persons rent'?

gamerchick.......i didn't know that, absolutely disgusting.

There are no smaller properties for them to move to.

I know quite a few families who have high incomes and still in social housing . Surely they should be made to go to private rent ? Yes they needed it but now they don't . There are genuine families in need who they houses should be available for .

I understand people convicted of posting hate crimes on line can be in breach of their tenancy agreements
check your tenancy agreements , since my retirement I had been working at CAB have dealt with a couple of cases

I don’t know know the official name for a single persons rent I’m afraid. It’s whatever it was that meant she lived alone as a retired person. I can’t imagine she pays any rent now she super old.

How would it actually free up additional homes though?

If a review were to decide that some people were no longer eligible for social housing, they would need to live somewhere else.

Think about it. What would happen to the demand for housing?

What would then happen to the cost of housing?

How exactly would that help people needing affordable housing?

I imagine some of the painful poorly behaved tenants who abuse their neighbours and make their life a living hell would be made to leave.

WhatInTheWorldIsGoingOn Everyone pays rent regardless of age, unless you are on a very low income and get housing benefit.

My daughter has social housing both her next door neighbors have 3 bedroom properties. Across rd 4 bedroom occupied by single person . Next door to this single person in 3 bedroom. Bedroom tax does not apply to pensioners. So that's 4 houses under occupied. I live in over 55 flat .

RunMummyRun68...... every 5 years because people's circumstances change, children leave home, several babies could be born, people working up the career ladder and earning more money, people finding partners who are earning well and move them into the property.

I bid every 2 weeks, 3 bed houses are like gold dust on the south coast, it's all 2 bed maisonettes or flats and there are ample 1 bed retirement bungalows.

I would love one of those 2 bed flats, I wouldn't be struggling financially anymore, I wouldn't be moving plug in radiators from room to room anymore.

Yes I agree drained.

Propaganda works, it’s spoon fed to all of us and has us all scrapping amongst ourselves.

It’s clever really, hand grenade something into a popular social media place and get public opinion. Next we’ll get the benefits Britain type programs on telly to get us going before some pain is inflicted by central government and people won’t care.

Just to add fuel to fire as obviously some people want to get worked up. You can pass tenancy on to a child /partner prior to your death so a life time tenancy has the potential to pass to another generation of obviously other feckless folk.

Yes but drained you are managing and you are housed

Wouldn't we all love something else more suitable

Something a bit cheaper....a bit more modern.

RunMummyRun68.......you really don't have a clue do you.

"You are aware that the social housing problem isn’t the same everywhere in the country don’t you?"

Yes, and that's why each area should have their own balancing act between those needing new homes or bigger homes, and those who need to downsize.

It wouldn't take that much more admin to run two priority lists, and could make a huge difference in areas with a shortage of housing.

It could also mean the bedroom tax could be scrapped in areas where there isn't any shortage of bigger houses.