For all those MNers who claim they have never heard of 'Ms' being the correct title for a divorced woman..

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Turns out it is true after all!

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It might be ‘etiquette’ but it’s a title to refer to a female, marital status nunya business

I’ve always used Ms, even when I was married. I find it incredibly sexist and archaic that women not only have to change their surname but also their title so their marital status is permanently on display. It’s no one else’s business imo and don’t wish for it to be public knowledge.

If its written by that gurning idiot in the Daily Mail it must be true!

I'VE used Ms before marriage, during and after divorce. As a mind your own business.

However I have also used Miss fairly interchangeably. If people call me Mrs I don't always care.

I'd select the title Mx if it's on offer as I don't particularly want to declare my sex, gender or marital status. I think titles are a bit daft though.

So according to that, the royal family, and in particular the queen, won't use Ms, regardless of the woman's preferred honorific "'The royal household, in particular the Queen, has never before acknowledged the honourific Ms - regardless of whether it was being used to signify a divorced woman or one who did not feel her marital status was of importance.

How rude of them. And yet they presumably prefer people to refer to them by their preferred honorific? So much for the notion the queen is manners personified!

I've always wished there was something better. "Ms" is difficult to say and sounds odd to my ears.

I think titles are a bit redundant now, aren't they? The only people I know who use then daily are teachers.

I'm not married but have been with my partner 27 years, we have kids etc. Most people probably assume we are married. On any given day I get Miss, Ms or Mrs. Can't say I give it a lot of thought really.

I was Ms. when I was single. Maybe I'll choose Miss when I'm divorced? My choice!

Or maybe they're acknowledgeing that she's American and Ms. is a default title for all adult women there? I've never met an American woman who calls herself Miss.

Pity about the Daily Mail link!
I think I must be unusual because I've always hated Ms and have never used it. I was Miss before I was married and am now Mrs.

"Ms" is difficult to say and sounds odd to my ears

No it's not difficult to pronounce. If anything is odd, it must be your ears.

OP, that Daily Mail article proves nothing of the sort. Like G5000 says, it is the norm in the US for women to be known as Ms Last Name, unless they actively describe themselves as Mrs. It's just the title used by adult women. And as Mehgan Markle is American, her formal name is Ms Markle.

Both of my dds us Ms. Neither has ever been married.

DD and I are Ms and always have been.

I hate Ms and always have done. I was Miss before I was married, Mrs during and am Miss again now I'm divorced. If you want to call yourself Ms, go right ahead. I couldn't care less. Call yourself anything you want. However, I am a Miss. And especially as the link is from the Daily Fail.

But Barbara, we are not in the US!

But Ms Meghan Markle is her name . it doesn't change because she is getting married here or because she is marrying a royal.

it would have been ridiculous to write Miss Meghan Markle because that's not her name .

Maybe they asked her what she prefers to be called on her own wedding invitations?

Mrs Mountbatten aka The Queen

I think the whole title thing is unnecessary. But since we're still required to put down something, I always have used ms. People can read whatever they want into it.

I agree with pp about the sound of it. Like 'merss', or 'muss' or 'mzzz'.

Each to their own.

Fuck off queen.

There you go.