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WIBU to send GM’s carer home?

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footsyhistypatsy · 23/03/2018 14:00

We have had norovirus over the past two weeks (confirmed by stool sample)
It started with my dd and seven out of ten family members went down with it, including our cleaner who comes once a week. I didn’t get it and my elderly GM who lives with us didn’t get it - but I was obsessive with hygiene and protected her as she is almost 100 and something like that could kill her. I cleaned up and looked after everyone as they all went down like flies. I was up through the night too with all DC. I was and am knackered. My GM’s carer was on sick leave for 1.5 weeks while we had it because she had an operation.

The carer came back for the last two days people were still symptomatic . I told her that she needed to be scrupulous with hand washing to prevent herself from catching it. I gave her really detailed instructions to prevent it including noro-specific hand sanitizer and reminding her about washing her hands.

She did not seem to take me seriously and she did not wash her hands at all, and used loos, was in close contact with DC and shared food with them.m even though I warned her not to for her own sake.

The last couple of days have passed with no more family sick. I deep cleaned the house and breathed a sigh of relief.

It was the carer’s day off yesterday and she came this morning and said she had vomited for 12 hours straight yesterday because of something dodgy she ate. I said I think you have had what we have all had. She said absolutely not, it was food poisoning and she had made an official complaint to the cafe she had eaten at. She had also brought a meal she had cooked for us last night!

I said I’m sorry we can’t eat that, and I sent her home because I just cannot deal with the house being reinfected or the DC getting it again, and especially not my GM. I said I would still pay her but I just did not want the risk of reinfecting the house.

She left in a mild strop/disbelief and I am sitting here feeling like she thinks I am an obsessive lunatic. I can see where she is coming from if she genuinely thinks she had food poisoning, but do you think I was U for sending her home even though I am STILL paying her for today? I could go into lots of detail with her about how we were tested and it’s been confirmed and how contagious it is - cruise ships etc - making noro the most likely culprit in her case, but every time I tried to justify my decision to her, she just glazed over, and I gave up.

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FizzyGreenWater · 23/03/2018 14:09

You go over her head.

She's a carer for vulnerable elderly and she thinks it's fine to use the loo and not wash her hands and then handle food? That on its own would have me asking what the hell training was happening here and asking for another carer - bonus points for one who will acutally LISTEN to family members when they make him/her aware of ongoing health and safety issues in the home that affect their job and how they do it.

Get in touch with the care provider.

BlankTimes · 23/03/2018 14:09

You've done the right thing Flowers

MyKingdomForBrie · 23/03/2018 14:12

You were 100% right and frankly if she treats hygiene that casually in her role i’d be looking for a new carer.

FannyFifer · 23/03/2018 14:16

Regardless of what she thinks caused the vomiting, she is a carer & should not be working with vulnerable folk for 48 hours after last vomit.

Ihatemyclients · 23/03/2018 14:19

As you're still paying her I can't see what possible right she has to be upset! You've done the right thing.

It sounds exhausting and miserable OP - I hope you're ok Flowers

Raven88 · 23/03/2018 14:24

I'm a carer and I think she was being irresponsible. If norovirus has been present you should be wearing an apron and gloves and obviously washing hands more often and using hand gel. It's common sense. She obviously caught it and she should know that you have to stay off for 48hrs after the last occurrence as you are still contagious.

Going off in a strop is really unprofessional and you are still paying her. I would take it to her boss if she has one.

footsyhistypatsy · 23/03/2018 14:38

I think the reason she is stropping is because she really genuinely believes that it is food poisoning and it seems unfair to her that she has been sent home for something she thinks is completely unrelated, even though it’s obvious it’s not unrelated. She is a nice person and I think after she took all the time off for the operation, she wants to make up for it or show that she is a good employee. But for me a good employee is someone who is careful about risks and not someone who comes in despite being ill.

I tried to say this to her but she does not seem to be able to listen or understand. I don’t know how to make it clearer.

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kazillionaire · 23/03/2018 19:15

I would pay her what ever sick pay she is entitled to and start looking for a replacement as she doesn't seem fit to do the job if she doesn't even carry out the most basic hygiene there is by not washing her hands

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