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About photos nursery children on Facebook?

118 replies

Stephthegreat · 21/03/2018 19:12

My sons nursery has posted on Facebook today and this is a public page so anyone can see. The children are doing messy play and are all undressed even the 3 & 4 year olds just in knickers and vests.There are lots of photos and some very close up.AIBU to think is is a bit careless of them?

In my sons previous nursery they just used an apron and change of clothes for messy play.

Picked my son up today and there’s a few supply staff there due to sickness with staff.Theres a man there I’d never met and he said he had been brought in for @ few days had safety check etc which I know is fine.

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Mousewatch · 22/03/2018 11:08

Have they phoned you yet? Why don't you phone them?

Stephthegreat · 22/03/2018 11:21

I’ve just spoken to the manager and she said she feels im overreacting about the photos on Facebook but that because I was unhappy about my sons photo on there she will remove it.No one parents have complained so I’ve been made to feel it is just me!

The man who was there yesterday is her daughters boyfriend and she said he has DBS so perfectly ok to be there with her permission.She said they had staffing shortages at the moment and that was why she’d called him in.

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QueenDaisy · 22/03/2018 11:27

You need to rescind, in writing, the permission you’ve given them to take & use photos of your child, in the meantime look for another Nursery, which I appreciate may be problematic.

italiancortado · 22/03/2018 11:32

That's not an acceptable answer.

Who took the photographs?

Where are the photographs now?

Why do they think it's acceptable to strip children to their underwear?

I would t take my child back. I would report this on as many levels to as many bodies as you can.

The nursery managers response is seriously unacceptable. She doesn't seem to be aware of the issue and is trying to throw it back onto you being the problem. That shows a very serious lack of understanding for her job.

As for the man, he has a DBS isn't enough. I have a DBS but zero experience of nursery children Confused

Stephthegreat · 22/03/2018 11:36

Yes there were many things she said that I felt were unreasonable and I do think she’s blaming me rather than taking responsibility.I will write more later about what she said but feel very frustrated with this situation and upset and angry.

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SM2132 · 22/03/2018 11:45

I think you should report it to ofsted. Let them decide if the manager has acted appropriately/responsibly or not. I would be really unhappy about this.

bastardkitty · 22/03/2018 11:47

Write verbatim notes now while it's fresh in your mind. Then call Ofsted. She is clueless. No wonder you're so angry and upset.

Beeziekn33ze · 22/03/2018 11:52

Absofrig - ‘partially nude’??!!

Infant pupils are unlikely to be wearing any thing revealing. Until quite recently vest and pants was normal for pe lessons.

MynameisJune · 22/03/2018 11:58

This is not on at all.

DD’s Nursery is ofstead outstanding, they post pictures on their Facebook page but only ever of the kids fully clothed and either with their backs to the camera or their faces blurred out.

Due to the age when one child is potty training then they often run around Nursery in their pants and a top to make it easier whilst they are learning and to save parents washing etc. They never appear in pictures like that.

As for the man, him being male wouldn’t bother me but the fact that he doesn’t have any training and isn’t employed by the Nursery would worry and annoy me as you’re paying for fully trained care.

As others have said I’d report to Ofstead and possibly the local council due to them being out of hours care for local primary schools.

DragonMummy1418 · 22/03/2018 12:15

Please Please Please report this to ofsted!!!!

He doesn't just need a random dbs check, he needs the appropriate qualifications! He SHOULD NOT be working there!!!!

And I'm glad they've taken down the photos - tell them that you revoke permission for them to photograph your child and if any more photos appear then threaten them to report to the police as they don't have your permission.

Beeziekn33ze · 22/03/2018 12:40

Hot choc - agree with you re no identifiable pics on social media whatever children are doing or wearing. Anyway if so short staffed why waste time on taking and posting pics?
Also the D’s bf sounds a bit random and his DBS may not have covered the nursery. Wonder whether he was wearing ID and properly signed in and out.

purplelass · 22/03/2018 13:11

Where I live DBSs have changed and you need a new specific one for each event / place of work. I don't know if it's the same everywhere but it was the first thing I thought of.

I wouldn't be happy with my child being photographed and put on a public website in their vest + pants either and I think the fact that they've blocked you from seeing it means that really they know they're in the wrong too...

InTheRoseGarden · 22/03/2018 13:20

I wouldn't be happy about messy play in undies let alone posted on FB! I would find a new nursery and report to both FB and Ofsted. YA definitely NBU

QforCucumber · 22/03/2018 13:22

Report to OFSTED and the owners, if she is the manager of one in a group there will be someone who owns the group.

I have a DBS check to get my personal license for managing a pub - does that mean I can walk into a nursery and start looking after kids?

EdgeOf17 · 22/03/2018 13:24

Report to OFSTED

The FB page should not be public
You are NOT overreacting

Write everything down and report report report

(sorry in a bit of a rush - couldn't read and run)

workwankery · 22/03/2018 13:40

Our nursery strips the littlies down to their nappies for tactile messy play but not the older group. I don't see aproblem with that. I also don't mind them photgraphing DS in his nappy during messy play.

I would however have an issue with them photographing the older children in their underwear, but they don't do this.

elliejjtiny · 22/03/2018 13:41

Yanbu. Messy play in underwear is fine imo , I've often done that at home or in nurseries (the children, not me obvs!) Putting the photos on the internet is not OK though.

Throwaway4misc · 22/03/2018 16:27

Hi OP. Not unreasonable at all considering safeguarding but also thank you for posting as this meant I found out about a similar situation and have voiced my concerns to them x

cocobilly · 22/03/2018 19:07

I’m an EYFS teacher and a former nursery nurse. This is totally unacceptable and the manager’s response shows a serious lack of understanding about safeguarding. Wherever I have worked, photos of children have been treated extremely carefully and only ever sent out in e-newsletters emailed directly to the parents. I would be very concerned about safeguarding at this nursery and would definitely contact ofsted.

willynillypie · 22/03/2018 19:45

I would be extremely uncomfortable if my child were at that age and stripped down for messy play, and then photographed that way and put online! I agree with others that the response you've had shows a complete lack of understanding about the situation. I would also report to Ofsted and find another nursery. Also would not be happy about some random "qualified" brother coming to work there for the day.

TheSkyAtNight · 22/03/2018 19:57

Fb is a massive risk from a safeguarding point of view. The CEOP website is an excellent (and terrifying) resource. It sounds like your nursery don't understand safeguarding or take it seriously.

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Stephthegreat · 22/03/2018 21:05

I don’t want to name them on here but I’m being totally honest with you that this is a public Facebook page that you can like and follow.The posts are all public on there (I only ever use my FB and that is a personal one where you can adjust the privacy for each post) so I’ve no idea if you can change privacy on there.

I’m not lying or had some misunderstanding over this,those photos were all on a public Facebook page run by the nursery.Anyone can follow that page,there is no private group or whatever other people suggested their nurseries use.

This is why I’m frustrated and upset because the nursery manager herself has actually liked these photos (actually she ‘loved’ them with the little heart reaction) and so I’m beating my head against a brick wall trying to explain how this is a major breach of safeguarding. We are not on the same page! Yet they are the nursery who is supposed to be caring for my child,keeping him safe.

I do wish I could name the nursery then you could all see their public fb page but I really don’t want to, I’m stressed enough as it is. Do Ofsted have a helpline you can ring or do you just write to them with concerns?

The nursery manager treated me like some overprotective parent worried about their snowflake. I’m really not like that, I think others on here have shown that photographing preschoolers in their undies isn’t the norm and having the caretaker from the road pop in to help out for a few days because he’s related to management- isn’t normal!!

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bastardkitty · 22/03/2018 21:08

Don't name them just to appease a troll hunter. People do believe you and a number of other posters have also said similar things.