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Labiaplasty... to make spin class more "comfortable"???

150 replies

NormaNameChange · 16/03/2018 20:18

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/plastic-surgery-labiaplasty-soulcycle-spin-exercise-women-a8178751.html

So apparently...Labiaplasty ties into grooming trends where women want everything to be clean and neat and streamlined

Now, I'm all for clean and neat but...AIBU to pass on the labiaplasty?

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CherryCi · 16/03/2018 20:26

Yay, another article promoting how we are meant to be perfectly formed clones of one another.

YANBU

BillywilliamV · 16/03/2018 20:29

Ive had loads of plastic surgery because of a mastectomy. Wouldnt rrcommend it to anyone, leaves you totally numb.

PollyBanana · 16/03/2018 20:30

Ugh.
We are trying to outlaw FGM, and women are opting to do THIS to themselves?

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 16/03/2018 20:31

Women must have the perfect fanny now too 😤 fgs.

LimonViola · 16/03/2018 20:35

Women can do what they like to their own bodies.

Many labiaplasties are carried out because the size of the woman's labia causes discomfort during sex, while sitting down, makes her feel self conscious during sex.

Entirely up to her. Even if it's purely for cosmetic reasons.

There's definitely something to be said for examining a culture that prioritises 'neat', almost invisible inner labia, but all cultures have their own beauty ideals. There are cultures that practice labia elongation because they believe longer labia are more appealing. Each to their own!

Birdsgottafly · 16/03/2018 20:39

But the report says that the rise is because the Women are cyclists etc and are experiencing discomfort. I don't see an issue in wanting to fix that.

I would have the surgery if I had the money, from a comfort pov. I want my teeth fixed as well, but oddly enough, that gets support on here.

NormaNameChange · 16/03/2018 20:44

I really dont have a problem with women making choices about their own bodies but when the words "clean" and "neat" are involved in a discussion about labiaplasty on a mainstream news source, I tend to get a little ranty. There is the (almost) unspoken implication that in order to be "well put together" we now need the cookie cutter cunt.

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VioletteValentia · 16/03/2018 20:46

I know a woman who had this. She was in pain and discomfort and it helped her greatly. I’m lucky (?) to have not needed this, and after my friend being open about her experience I’m not sure we should judge.

LimonViola · 16/03/2018 20:47

i want my teeth fixed as well, but oddly enough, that gets support on here.

👍🏻

I had braces at 24. Everyone said 'good for you!'

If I'd had a labiaplasty? No doubt there'd be judgment and lots of hand wringing despite both would be me making a decision to alter my own body.

My teeth weren't unhealthy. They just didn't match the cosmetic 'ideal' we have of perfectly straight white teeth until I got braces. How is a cosmetic only labiaplasty different? And surely nobody would judge for comfort and health reasons.

It's the same people who sneer at women getting breast augmentation because they think it's a waste of money even though it's not their money and not their body. Just another part of policing women's appearances and casting judgment on what they want to do to their bodies imo.

LimonViola · 16/03/2018 20:50

NormaNameChange Does it give you the same amount of rage when people get braces because their teeth aren't 'straight' 'neat' 'white' etc?

FWIW i see where you're coming from, and the pressure to all have a specific looking vulva. But it seems odd to focus on labiaplasty only when people also get lipo, breast augmentation, braces, etc.

megletthesecond · 16/03/2018 20:51

If it's uncomfortable to cycle I don't see why women shouldn't "fix" it.

NinjagoNinja · 16/03/2018 20:51

But OP, you say yourself you're "all for clean and neat". I presume you mean pubic hair? It's just an extension of that preoccupation, albeit it an extreme one. The preoccupation work making female genitalia look more appealing.

A lot of women talk about shaving their vulva to feel clean when actually they're doing the opposite. Pubic hair does an important job of protecting the vagina from bacteria and injury. The women on the spin bikes would be more comfortable if they left their pubes alone.

VioletteValentia · 16/03/2018 20:52

Plus the only people going to see a woman’s labia are herself and her partner. It’s not like breasts which are on show. Therefore it’s more likely she does this for her, and not to meet societal standards.

NormaNameChange · 16/03/2018 20:53

@LimonViola i have had breast augmentation, and as I said, believe strongly in a womans right to do whatever she chooses with her own body. My issue is with the way this is being promoted and particularly the implication around cleanliness.

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LadyDeadpool · 16/03/2018 20:54

I thought feminism was about the woman's right to choose? So surely its a woman's right to be able to choose if she want's this surgery or not the same as any other cosmetic surgery or indeed shaving off your pubes.

Frogthefrog · 16/03/2018 20:54

Cookie cutter cunt Grin

BuzzKillington · 16/03/2018 20:55

My friend often bleeds a bit after spinning because she has protruding labia.

Can't see anything wrong with having them reduced if they cause you irritation. Or even if you just fancy it. Your body etc..

VioletteValentia · 16/03/2018 20:56

Pubic hair does an important job of protecting the vagina from bacteria and injury.

What injury could pubes possibly protect me from?

My toddler ran and headbutted me at fanny height earlier and it killed. If only I had pubes to protect me? Hmm

lolli18 · 16/03/2018 20:56

Hmmm I think I would consider it I'm very paranoid about mine.

LimonViola · 16/03/2018 20:57

I read it as the surgeon reflecting what his patients wanted from the procedure, to look cleaner and neater. It makes sense the women who want a labiaplasty don't feel their existing vulva looks neat and clean or they likely wouldn't be seeking it out.

Sashkin · 16/03/2018 20:57

They do make gel-padded cycling shorts for exactly this reason. Probably a bit less extreme than a labiaplasty.

LadyDeadpool · 16/03/2018 20:58

@Normanamechange do you shave your pubes? If yes then you're buying into the societal need to have everything clean and neat too so it's rather contradictory of you to complain about this.

We only get one body and if having your labia reduced in size makes you more comfortable in it no one should be complaining about your freedom to make that choice. Feminism gave us the choice to have our bodies be our own and be the way we want it, to say that having that making that choice now is wrong is to go against everything we've been fighting for.

NinjagoNinja · 16/03/2018 21:01

violette I mean minor skin tears.

But go ahead and be facetious if you want.

NormaNameChange · 16/03/2018 21:03

@LadyDeadpool Im currently sporting a full bush as it happens... in which is hiding my VCH

It's still clean!

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Helspopje · 16/03/2018 21:04

I had labia tears (plural!!) during the rapid delivery of dc1 that dehissed and have healed open
I race bikes and it is now extremely uncomfortable even in appropriate clothing so have been offered a labioplasty by urogynae on the nhs when my family is complete.