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To be frustrated that in 2018 some people just don't understand the harm low level, casual sexism can have?

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Blaablaablaa · 10/03/2018 07:34

So, need a bit of a rant but it might stop me going nuclear on Facebook.

This happened on Facebook....
Man: posts something sexist on IWD for a 'laugh'
Me: call him out on it. Nothing argumentative just pointed out it wasn't funny and was actually offensive.
Man: tells me I need to 'lighten up' it's a giggle, just banter
Me: didn't respond
Man and his friends : start commenting about women taking offense at everything and how you can't even have banter anymore. I, apparently, need to 'get a life'
Me: should have left it but... Responded politely just explaining the issues around low level, casual sexism.

I then get PMs where he goes into full mansplaining mode telling me I need to pick my fights, explaining he's not sexist because he hold doors open for all different types of women (?) And he's not racist just because he finds this (racist ) joke funny. Signs off telling me he'll always have time for my Mardy arse if I want to chat.

I've deleted and blocked him but it's made me really angry.

Anyway, apologies for the long rant but it feels better writing it down

OP posts:
TheMirrorSucksCocks · 10/03/2018 09:27

I have a cousin who can't leave an argument alone. He means well, he just has this urgency about fixing every relationship and the world's wrongs and not letting disagreements lie. Ends up being pushy.

People who use the word "mansplaining" are being very sexist IMHO. For me, undermines all else OP said.

WobbleHead · 10/03/2018 09:27

Oh hi, normal people!

Just baffles me that something like a racist joke is widely understood to be unacceptable, but plenty of people of both sexes will vociferously defend their right to tell and enjoy a sexist joke.

As far as I can make out, the justification tends to be along the lines of “women have achieved equal status so we all know the joke isn’t ACTUALLY true - don’t take it literally.”

So the problem actually is that people are 1) blind to inequality (in all it’s more or less overt forms), and 2) can’t see outside their own experience to understand that there are plenty of people who DON’T believe in equality and for whom stuff like this is social morning of their beliefs.

WobbleHead · 10/03/2018 09:29

*Norming not morning

WobbleHead · 10/03/2018 09:32

Why is ‘mansplaining’ sexist? It’s a description of sexist behaviour specifically and exclusively exhibited by men. It’s not a sexist term of itself.

But by all means derail the conversation about women’s equality to stick up for men who are being sexist Hmm

WobbleHead · 10/03/2018 09:33

“Don’t get your knickers in a twist” - sexist and condescending all in one neat, dismissive package.

Blaablaablaa · 10/03/2018 17:56

It turns out I didn't block him. Just deleted him. When he found out he sent me a barrage of messages saying I need to give my head a shake and stop playing the run down, hard done to female victim and admit that I'm wrong!
I've never claimed to be any of the above - ever!!
So I definitely blocked him this time and guess what??? He contacted my dad!!
Thankfully he thinks he's a fucking idiot too! Lol 😂😂

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nellieellie · 10/03/2018 18:15

I hate the “get a life” and “lighten up” retorts. Cliche remarks to put someone down after saying something sexist/mysogynist/racist. I remember my “feminist” female friends telling me to “lighten up” when at college in the 80s, a drunken man was putting his arm round me in a bar, and I told him to “p**s off”. They thought he was funny.

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