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AIBU about broken fence being dumped in my garden?

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SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 12:35

as per the rules here is a diagram.

In the horrendous weather last week (it was violently windy here) my garden fences were damaged.
my right and bottom fences are mine, they are fence panels (the big 6x6 kind) two panels came loose and i took them down to be replaced asap. they are currently just laid on the ground.

The fence between mine and NDNs garden (red line) has been rotten and falling to bits for a while and the wind was just too much for it and it fell completely. It was a traditional planks style fence.
the fence was in two halves, my side and NDNs side, both sides of the fence were back to back and attached to the same posts.

My side of the fence fell first, I immediately went out and cleared up the planks and broken wood into a pile so it wound not blow around or be a hazard.
Later NDNs side fell in her garden, much more of her side fell than mine, I'd guess 80% of hers fell and 60% of mine.

I have always believed that the fence was probably NDNs, I know that the fence of the other side (her left side fence) was replaced a couple of years ago by her other neighbors.

I don't drive and I have been really stressing about how i'm going to get rid of the planks, a friend suggested just breaking them into pieces and putting them into thick garden refuse sacks and putting them in the bin over a few weeks, so I was going to do this.

I just got home from work to find NDN has broken her side of the fence and has dumped all the panels into my garden (all along the length of the garden), about a foot inside from where the fence used to be.
I'm fuming.

WIBU to go out and dump her side of the fence back into her garden?
I wouldnt be as rude about it as she has though, I would at least put the planks into a neat pile.

the other options and to put all of the planks in the parking spaces, the spaces are on a private lane at the back of our houses (out boundaries go all the way up to the far wall) I have space for two cars at a squeeze, she has space for one (but its a large one space) I only use one of the spaces (not actually me, I let another neighbor use it for her second car, NDN only uses hers for guests.
so I could stack the planks out there between the spaces.

The last option is to suck it up and find a way to dispose of all of the planks.

So not to drip feed, she is an older lady and can be a bit of a PITA generally.
I'm struggling a bit financially at the moment and every spare penny I have it going towards saving to have my boiler fixed as its been broken for over a month, so I can't pay to have the planks removed or a new fence put up.

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SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 12:41

argh... .diagram didn't attach.

lets try again.

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SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 12:42

I don't know why it isn't working.

Try this i've put it on shutterfly.

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ASDismynormality · 07/03/2018 12:47

If possible speak to her and let her know you think they are her pieces of fence and she needs to dispose of them, she may think it’s yours.
She was rude not stacking it up neatly. The fence between my neighbours and I also suffered in the bad weather, I know it’s his and neatly piled the fallen planks on his side of the fence.

mumgointhroughtorture · 07/03/2018 12:51

I would put them back into her garden . She was cheeky enough to put them into yours . Maybe she thinks you want them for firewood. Before you know it she might put more waste into your garden. Give them her back .

Bellamuerte · 07/03/2018 12:55

I'd be annoyed about her dumping it in my garden but if my neighbour was an old lady I'd probably just get rid of the fence myself. I have a liner for the car which clips over the (collapsed) back seats so I can fill the car with rubbish to take to the tip. I've used it to get rid of all sorts of rubble and wood etc. If you don't have the option to dispose of the fence yourself, I'd speak to the neighbour and suggest splitting the cost of calling the council out to collect it.

Rollercoaster1920 · 07/03/2018 12:56

For disposal you could burn the wood, but just yours or it'd be theft / damage of someone else's property.

But talk to neighbour, check deeds to see if there is clear ownership of the old fence. You don't 'have' to have a fence of course, either party can choose to erect one or not.

LIZS · 07/03/2018 12:56

You need to be certain whose fence it is. Maybe you could get a skip/Hippo bag between you to dispose, or does your council do occasional bulky waste collections.

dentydown · 07/03/2018 13:05

Can you burn it? My partner did this in his friends garden because they didn’t have the means to dispose of their old fence. Since the panels were thin, it didn’t burn for long. The grass recovered well.
Give the neighbors back their fence though.

onalongsabbatical · 07/03/2018 13:16

Brilliant diagram! Surely she must think it's yours, otherwise why would she do that? Can you ask her? If she's utterly convinced it's yours it might be easier to take charge of it (I hate fighting) or I suppose you can go down the route of finding out on the deeds etc. But I can't see why she'd do that unless that's what she thought, so don't you need to find out what she thinks before deciding what to do about it?

SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 13:19

I've already been around and knocked twice but there was no answer.
She is well known for not answering the door, and just being generally awkward.

I had a thread last year about her taking in a parcel for me but refusing to answer the door and give me the parcel, it went on for nearly a month, the postman tried to knock but she ignored him too, i posted notes and in the end told her to leave the parcel on her back door step and I would collect it from there (she only has a knee high fence at the back so its easy to hop over)
the parcel was out there within an hour!

If I ever need to talk to her about anything I literally have to dash keep an eye out for her going on and dash out after her.

I didn't think you were allowed to burn fence panels because of what the wood is treated with?

I've been temped to post on local facebook pages and ask if there is anyone with a big car who would be willing to do a tip run with the planks for me, and offer £20 to cover time and petrol, but I feel that that would be incredibility cheeky, especially with NDNs fence planks as now there would be too much for one trip.

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SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 13:28

small update, I was out tidying it up a bit, putting all of her planks in a pile right on the boundary and another neighbor walked by and said "i saw {NDN} throwing them in your garden earlier, I popped out because the racket it was making made me worry something untoward was going on"
I asked if she said anything to him about it and he said that he asked if I knew she was dumping it all in my garden and she shrugged and he said "I don't know if you should be doing that" and she said "I don't see why not"
he said he tried to talk to her further but she turned her back on him and ignored him.
as I said she can be awkward.

Other Neighbor thinks she has probably believes the fence is mine and its my problem.

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Phillipa12 · 07/03/2018 13:35

Check if its her fence and if it is put it back in her garden and lob it in, and when she comes out shrug and say " i dont see why not, its your fence". Cheeky fucker!

inkandstone · 07/03/2018 13:38

If she thinks it's yours, she'll probably be expecting you to replace it too. Can you find out for definite who it belongs too?

magicstar1 · 07/03/2018 13:40

Check that it is hers, and put them back on her side. You can stick a note through the door saying it's hers, and if she wants to talk about it she can knock in.
Don't put them in your car space...they'll be there forever.

TheQueef · 07/03/2018 13:44

You can burn it as garden waste (occasional, you can't burn every day) if you burn it in the open it's ok. Not in a log burner or open fire.

In the interest of less hassle for you I would burn it. If you replace your side and the posts make sure she puts her own in and doesn't attach to yours.

SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 14:24

When the fence first started getting worse for wear two years ago I did try to talk to her about it, multiple notes were sent, chasing out after her etc, but she said it looked fine to her and refused to discuss it any further.
I tried to look into who owned it but I couldn't find anything that confirmed who's it was, my assumption that it is hers came from the face that her other NDNs replaced her left side two years ago and because I'm the end terrace and have my right side fence I assumed that if that fence did belong to my house it would have been the same as the right side fence, but it isn't.

While I was out I looked at it closer.
the fence posts seems to be exactly on the boundary, so that and the fact that it was two sides, so both had a 'nice side' makes me wonder if it was a 50/50 fence.

I have already kind of resound myself to her refusing to discuss or do anything. I know I'm going to have to sort it out myself.

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SecretChocolateStash · 07/03/2018 14:26

Thanks for the info on burning garden waste, that might be a viable option, especially if I burn it in sections, so keeping the fire small and burning a bit at a time, I'll have to wait for the planks to dry out first though as its been raining all week and after the snow last week they are well and truly sodden.

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TheQueef · 07/03/2018 14:27

It's going to cost to replace it anyway. If possible try and fix it to minimise dealing with her. You don't need the crap.

SecretChocolateStash · 08/03/2018 21:40

I would be a waste of time trying to fix it,
the horizontal planks (that connect to the posts and all of the fence planks are nailed to) are completely broken, and the planks are all rotten anyway.

I've tried to talk to NDN several times, I went around just before I sat down to type this reply, the lights are on and I could hear the tv but there was no answer.

I spoke to another neighbor today, she told me that as far as she knows there isn't actually anything that says who is responsible for any fences, its basically just a case of come to an agreement.
So maybe it was a 50/50 fence.

There are 8 houses in our row, they were built on private land, we have a private 'road' to the back of the houses behind our gardens (with parking) and a private 'footpath' to the front of our front gardens.
Nice Neighbor thinks that because its all private and there is no foot traffic past the houses like you would get on a normal public street, they probably didn't see fences as being important when the houses were built.

I've priced up replacing the fence with the cheapest fence panels i can and even if I try to fit them myself it'll still cost over £200, I just can't afford that.

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