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AIBU?

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Furious at this Landlady's behaviour

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pebblesparker · 04/03/2018 21:14

More of a WWYD. My DD (16) works Sat eve and Sun lunchtimes at a small local pub/restaurant. The staff are almost all under 18. It is run by a 25yr old who fronts the restaurant and her fiance who heads up the kitchen. Unfortunately this is quite an explosive relationship made worse by the fact that she regularly gets very drunk and he gets annoyed. She is diabetic and has apparently ended up in hospital because of the drink.
On one occasion recently it was exclusively hired out for a 50th Birthday party for 70 guests who the landlady knew. The landlady proceeded to get so drunk that she passed out in the kitchen leaving the young staff to cope with 70 guests many of whom were also the worst for wear. One of the guests was verbally abusive to DD who ended up in tears and by the time the fiance found out the guest had left. I had to collect a distraught daughter at 1.30 am. I was furious and very concerned that there was no support from the adults but DD insisted that I didn't get involved. This afternoon the restaurant was again hired for a exclusive party and again the landlady got drunk. She even sent DD to the local shop with her credit card to get some Red Bull for Jager bombs. DD was supposed to finish at 4.30 and we were due to go out this evening. At 6pm when she still wasn't finished Dh insisted that we collect DD. This time the landlady and her fiance had a blazing row, he stormed off in the car, she continued to drink and left the young staff in charge again. The whole toxic environment is stressing DD but she loves the other staff and really gets on well with them.
AIBU in feeling that this is disgraceful behaviour for an employer especially when her staff are so young. I feel there is potentially also a safeguarding issue. What if a customer were to become aggressive etc. I would really like to give this landlady a piece of my mind but my daughter still wants me to leave it.

Any advice oh wise MN

OP posts:

TroubledLitchen · 04/03/2018 22:30

And yes under 18s can serve alcohol but the sale has to be authorised by an over 18, which clearly isn’t happening when the landlord is unconscious on the kitchen floor

endofthelinefinally · 04/03/2018 22:30

Yes. I wonder if a drunk landlady is capable of authorising the sale?

OlennasWimple · 04/03/2018 22:31

She should hand in her notice straight away and report this to the licensing authorities

endofthelinefinally · 04/03/2018 22:31

It sounds very unsafe tbh.

MarSeeAh · 04/03/2018 22:31

Just report her to your local licensing authority and let them do their stuff.

I agree with this.

And your daughter should look for another job.

londonrach · 04/03/2018 22:35

Report to the licensing for alcohol as drunk ll with alcohol licence shouldn't be in charge of under 18 year olds. Terrible work situation.

Viviennemary · 04/03/2018 22:50

You could try reporting her to whoever is issuing licences in your area. I think you should tell your DD to find another job. If your DD is serving drink then she is breaking the law as is the landlady as she is not fit to supervise if she is in a drunken stupor.

pastabest · 04/03/2018 22:58

I disagree Rawhh I worked in pubs/restaurants from the age of 14 until after I graduated university.

I got all of the jobs off my own back with no parental involvement and I think I was a pretty mature, independent, responsible and confident teen, but at 14/15/16 years old I wouldn't have been confident tackling a drunk adult who was my boss about these kind of working conditions.

I genuinely think that at that age, in that sort of situation it's reasonable for a parent to step in and say actually this situation is not ok.

GnotherGnu · 04/03/2018 23:00

It's a matter of time before the landlady loses her licence and the business collapses. Therefore your daughter is going to have to find another job anyway. She'd be in a much better position to do so now, when she can leave on her own terms, than she will be if the job disappears from under her.

emmcan · 04/03/2018 23:07

If the landlady is the designated premises supervisor and has a license then that covers the 17+ staff serving alcohol. If she leaves and leaves her partner in the kitchen to it, he needs to have a personal license too, otherwise they are committing an offence.

Ssssurvey · 04/03/2018 23:14

I agree with posts about the legality of the situation, but this won't change anything for your DD. She is a young employee and any objections will not change the behaviour of the landlady. In this situation I would urge her asap to get out and get something different.

Saracen · 04/03/2018 23:24

As others have said, I'd be inclined to give your dd advice/encouragement and let her deal with it herself. It is difficult, but dealing with tricky work situations involves an incredibly important set of skills which she needs to be acquiring.

At the same time, you should be aware that it isn't only the employer who has a legal responsibility to ensure that child employment laws are being followed. Any person (other than the child herself) who knowingly allows the child employment laws to be flouted can also be convicted. This could include parents.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/193326/Child_employment09.pdf

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