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NAMALT should be rephrased as QALOMALT?

14 replies

yolofish · 19/02/2018 21:58

I get that Not All Men Are Like That, I really do, I love lots of different men and boys. But it seems, particularly over the last week or so, that actually Quite A Lot Of Men Are Like That. Given the opportunity and the ability to use their power so many men seem to use their entitlement to do what they want to girls/women/boys/men.

Just in the last week or so: Oxfam/Haiti; Brendan Cox; Barry Bennell; Matthew Falder; UN troops, I'm sure there are many more.

I just find it so depressing, what is wrong with these people?

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Fe2O3Girl · 19/02/2018 22:03

I agree. The problem is then compounded by organisations that cover up to avoid bad publicity (see also religious abuse scandals).

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 19/02/2018 22:14

I think it's way past time for acknowledging that we have a crisis of male sexual violence on our hands.

NAMALT of course.

But we have to start naming it if we're to have any hope of doing anything about it. YANBU OP.

yolofish · 19/02/2018 22:27

Business, sport, religion, the aid sector: are there any areas where this doesn't happen?

We have SCROTUS who got elected despite the pussy grabbing, sleeping around etc. We have Jacob Rees Mogg who thinks pregnant girls/women should not be allowed abortion despite the circumstances involved. We have the very abusive trans activists who want to take over female spaces just because they want to.

What can we women actually do to change things? Because I would do it, I'm getting so pissed off with this environment.

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CaptainMarvelDanvers · 19/02/2018 23:02

I just watched the Stacey Dooley documentary about the epidemic violence against women in Honduras. Holy fucking shit, when men are allowed to get away with being absolute shits - some of them will do terrible things, while a large majority of Male peers will not hold them to account.

It makes me so sure that sex has to stay a protected characteristic.

SleepIsForTheWeek · 19/02/2018 23:48

I'm so angry about this. And I agree, it is most men - at least in my experience it is. I wish I had met all these lovely NAMALT men but really I have met very few.

Arealhumanbeing · 20/02/2018 00:39

YANBU.

Someone on the early morning “sex” thread said today that ‘rapists are not everywhere’.

Rapists absolutely ARE everywhere.

BakedBeans47 · 20/02/2018 00:43

YANBU

I am just glad I have been raised by and married to men who are not like this and hope and pray my two sons will turn out likewise. It’s a worry x

Waddlelikeapenguin · 20/02/2018 00:44

:-(
YANBU

FrustratedTeddyLamp · 20/02/2018 00:47

YABU

fatalAttractions · 20/02/2018 00:52

Why?

Why do you need a stock smug phrase to use when ever anyone points out that your generalisations are offensive and baseless? NAMALT serves no purpose other then shutting down another opinion. QALOMALT seems simply wrong and misleading when the vast, vast, vast majority of men are 'not like this'.

Men are not rapists. Rapists are rapists. The only reason rapists are men is because of the wording of the law.

MMANLT would be a better acronym (Most Men ...) but that isn't quite as dramatic or fitting with the opinions you want.

"Rapists absolutely ARE everywhere."

  • looks around -

None here. You're wrong. Guess that doesn't suit your agenda though!

FrustratedTeddyLamp · 20/02/2018 01:06

That's the thing, to me it seems to be confirmation bias, there are a lot of women coming forward about things they have faced and it feeds the notion to some that men are evil or do X, Y or Z because it's on the news so much, but it's still a minority of men, often with multiple stories of the same man. For every Weinstein there are an innumerable amount of men that aren't sexual abusers in Hollywood for example.

How do you even quantify " quite a lot" ? If I get 5 men in a room, how many have to be rapists to say that quite a lot are? 3? And then if we get a 95 more and there are 3 rapists, are there still quite a lot or does it have to go to 60? Some may say 2 in the room is quite a lot and others may say 85.

DammitPatrice · 20/02/2018 07:27

We have SCROTUS who got elected despite the pussy grabbing, sleeping around etc.

What can we women actually do to change things?

You could start by not voting for people like Trump. 53% of white women backed Trump, a demographic without which he would not have won the election, so let's not pretend that 'women' don't bear some responsibility for this.

fatalAttractions · 20/02/2018 07:50

What is SCROTUS?

A hilarious / sexist term for the US President?

He won despite "sleeping around" (is that proven and/or reason for him not to be elected?) because the person he was running against is a sexist, bigoted, corrupt, rape-apologiser.

Again, I am confused how talking about 1 person or the 5 mentioned in the OP lead to the baseless QALOMALT.

It's amazing how often NAF (feminists) ALT was used on threads recently like "Are you a feminist?"

Laiste · 20/02/2018 07:55

Lazily scan read the OP and thought it said ''Brian Cox'' Shock

That was one big double take!

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