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To find people recommending supplements for dog ailments infuriating

20 replies

saggynappy · 19/02/2018 18:18

I’ve never heard of a human being advised to take supplements for arthritis, hip displasia or torn ligaments. I’ve unjoined several breed specific groups because of the talk of supplements and now the vet nurse keeps mentioning they might help my dog. I can’t find any actual evidence they work and my old vet said they were a waste of time. AIBU to think it’s all bollocks and proper pain relief is what’s required? And yes, I’ve tried a few! prays nobody mentions yumove

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frazmum · 19/02/2018 18:32

YABU. The one you mentioned above worked wonders for our dog. Old dog used to be on a Chinese herbal supplement. Lots of people take supplements. If it doesn’t work for you and your pets fair enough. No need to get quite so upset.

XmasInTintagel · 19/02/2018 18:39

YABU, I've heard lots of people recommending supplements for joint pain to people too, and have used one particular one myself for some years and find it v helpful for arthritic joints. There are no medications for pain which are good for you taken in quantity over a long period, so alternatives are worth considering, surely?

JustKeepDancing · 19/02/2018 18:39

This made me laugh, because I am a human with (medically corrected, but still painful) hip dysplasia and ligament damage, and a spectacular number of people have suggested supplements. And also likened me to a Labrador.

The only thing that's ever helped me was physio. Painkillers are fine but they don't stop the damage which causes the pain. The jury is out on glucosamine, most of the evidence suggests it's placebo combined with a proactive patient, so I'd be surprised if it'd work on your dog!

Cynically, I wonder if they suggest supplements to alleviate the guilt of knowing they've bought a breed prone to painful joint problems...

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/02/2018 18:42

YABU

Yumove is brilliant. I really notice if we’ve run out and my dog hasn’t had it for a few days. And Why wouldn’t I help my arthritic dog , very Confused

KeepTheBloodyNoiseDown · 19/02/2018 18:43

As someone with a collection of chronic illnesses, which are barely managed by medication, supplements are definitely suggested by everyone who thinks they understand your condition better than you do (and one doctor I never went back too), along with acupuncture, fresh air, and the power of positive fucking thought.

Gide · 19/02/2018 18:45

U OK hun? Yumove did sod all for my dog, but green lipped mussel seems to have made a difference. Saying that, I recommend keeping a dysplastic dog lean, give it gentle uphill exercise, hydro. Or actually arse yourself to get a puppy from health tested/hip scored parents in the first place if it’s a breed prone to issues. Saying that, the dog may just be unlucky, one of mine was, both cruciates went. Painkillers are the only thing to alleviate most joint issues, but long term they’re not appropriate/good for the liver etc.

saggynappy · 19/02/2018 18:48

I’m sure some owners have noticed an improvement, just as some parents have noticed wearing amber helps their teething baby. I think it is worrying some people are recommending supplements to owners instead of vet treatment, surely if your dog was on adequate pain relief you wouldn’t be thinking of supplements? Incidentally I had a lot of Chinese herbal stuff when I was younger to try and help my eczema, none of it worked.

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Ellybellyboo · 19/02/2018 18:49

YABU

My 9 year old dog is on yumove for arthritis as recommended by our vet.

As he’s still relatively young we do not want him on long term pain relief just yet.

He had a flare up this time last year and was put on pain relief but the vet wanted him off it as quickly as possible.

We keep some pain medication which we give him if he’s really struggling, but for day to day management Yumove works really well, along with keeping him fit and keeping his weight down.

XmasInTintagel · 19/02/2018 19:12

As I said before, I'm not aware of any painkillers which are good for you over long periods, so you're mistaken in thinking its as simple as:
surely if your dog was on adequate pain relief you wouldn’t be thinking of herbal supplements?

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/may/25/does-paracetamol-do-you-more-harm-than-good

I have joint pain, and my gp advised to avoid medication except when really needed.

Taking large amounts for long periods is also likely to lead to an increasing dose to get the same effect - I don't want to be on maximum doses of heavy duty medicines to get on top of the pain by the time I reach 60.

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 19/02/2018 19:46

YABU. Long term anti inflammatory use gave my dog more problems than the initial condition it was treating. We still use pain killers but not all the time and use supplements too.

Notevilstepmother · 19/02/2018 19:51

YABU. Yumove really helped my elderly dog in his later years. Plenty of humans take similar.

Celebelly · 19/02/2018 19:54

YABU. Yumove helped give my old dog a new lease of life near the end, along with Akitvait. It also meant that by the time pain relief was needed, she hadn't already been on it for months and months and built up a tolerance. We also did hydrotherapy with her which helped a huge amount.

Notevilstepmother · 19/02/2018 19:57

Yumove has greenlipped mussel in it.

It was tested and found effective by the royal veterinary college.

I didn’t need to give as many pain killers once he was taking the yumove.

isadoradancing123 · 19/02/2018 19:58

Rheumocalm has helped my dog

Notevilstepmother · 19/02/2018 20:02

*Veterinary scientists have given the first clinical proof of the effect of joint supplements on dogs’ mobility, following a rigorous two-and-a-half year research study into YUMOVE.

State-of-the-art activity monitors, which were originally developed to track wild cat movements on the African plains, were used by specialists at the Royal Veterinary College to record dogs’ mobility levels in their home environment for 42 days.

In the placebo-controlled study, the dogs on YUMOVE were significantly more mobile after just six weeks of use*

Notevilstepmother · 19/02/2018 20:06

Btw I have a science based degree, and the comparison with Amber for teething is insulting.

Supplements contain chemicals of one sort or another. The idea that none of them work isn’t sensible.

People used to use wintergreen for pain relief. Is that ridiculous? Even though that is where we get aspirin from?

brownelephant · 19/02/2018 20:09

yanbu
supplements might help a little if you or your pet are deficient in nutrients

but they can't give much relief and can cause other issues if not used wisely (interference with medicines, kindney and liver problems).

Tippytappytoes · 19/02/2018 20:11

Arthritis is a major cause of premature euthanasia. Diet change, supplements, NSAIDs and alternative therapies can all be used to help keep your dog as mobile and pain free as long as possible.

If anyone would like to learn more about Canine Arthritis, the following website is choc full of information and advice, and it’s free!

www.caninearthritis.co.uk

Rednailsandnaeknickers · 19/02/2018 20:12

Your OP shows a complete lack of any medical or scientific knowledge. Painkillers and supplements like Yumove are 2 completely different products doing 2 completely different jobs for the animal (or human on glucosamine etc). Hmm

Matilda1981 · 19/02/2018 20:17

YABVU!!! Yumove has been clinically proven to improve stiffness in dog joints within 6 weeks!! Also, Yumove 360 can claim to help with osteoarthritis in dogs in accordance with EU regulations so you wouldn’t be able to make that claim of it weren’t actually true!!!!!

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