WIBU to think that boxers should be classed by personality, rather than weight?

[FairIsFair]

What does a person's body type have to do with who they really are inside?

Why shouldn't a heavyweight be able to box against a lightweight, if he identifies as someone with more of a lightweight-type personality? Maybe booklovers could fight booklovers, and outdoorsy types could fight outdoorsy types, and we could all just move past this discriminatory, cruel obsession with how much muscle mass each boxer has in relation to his opponent.

Or would that be ridiculous, because physical pursuits are segregated by physical attributes, not personalities, for reasons of both safety and fairness?

in athletics

in football

in weightlifting

in UFC

Man, thank goodness someone posted yet another trans thread about the exact same subject that there are currently multiple threads about daily. Otherwise I may have remained blissfully uniformed.

Snow most people are blissfully uninformed about the biggest threat to women’s rights of our generation hence the threads to raise awareness.

Snowzicle you do actually come across as rather uninformed, otherwise you'd realise this isn't a subject to be casually dismissive of.

and then there's 'trans gender fluid' ...

This poor kid, who came out as a gay boy and was told by his parents to hide it, wants to play on the boys' teams, but use the girls' locker rooms and bathrooms, and prefers to be referred to by both male and female pronouns (which makes the article almost unreadable).

Sounds like a kid with varied interests and different facets to his personality - like everyone else - who in the context of this crazy gender identity ideology thinks that he can't just be a gay boy who's really good at sports and has some interests that are more 'masculine' and others that at more 'feminine'.

"Junior is trans gender fluid, meaning she was assigned male at birth but identifies as both male and female genders and uses both male and female pronouns. Her use of the girls locker room is consistent with her gender identity...

The basketball games have not been easy on Junior. At one game, Junior was harassed by a parent in the girls room, and then accosted by another woman when she walked out of the restroom, being told she is never to use a girls room again.

“Just look what they’re doing to my kid,” Matt said, simultaneously saddened and enraged.

Now Junior is simply wanting to play on the team where he feels the most comfortable — with the boys and his friends. Matt said Junior is exceptionally talented athletically and that it makes absolutely no sense to force him to compete against girls."

But of course, it would make perfect sense to force the girls to play against him, if that's what he said he wanted.

Stompy what are our 'inside' feelings of 'being' related to though? I would suggest a combination of conscious and unconsciously remembered observations and experiences, combined with our imagination - that is all I have to explain how I feel like a woman only because I am one, I have experiecend being one, have seen other women etc etc and have inagination that allows me to project and fantasise about diferent scenarios.

Today having watched a lot of ice skating on TV, I completely feel as if I could leap up and elegantly swing, sway and jump across the lounge like Torvill & Dean - I can literally feel it in my body and live it in my mind - but within a nano second of even beginning to move it is adundantly clear that all I am going to achieve is a clumsy stumble with 0 marks for elegance because I have too much pain and am terribly unfit!!!

So I can relate completely to deeply feeling things in one's body and mind - soul - and put this down to my experiences of being young and bouncy and being able to dance coupled with my imagination and I feel like this fairly often but sadly however much I feel this way and my personality/ soul wants to be this way, none of it exists outside of my head!

I think males (and females) can express themsleves however they like so long as it does not harm anyone else, but there are times when sex segregation is absolutely necessary for the well-being of women (and in some instances for men) and that the outward factual reality is more important than someone's inner feelings.

Fucking hell poor women who are going to be up against Hannah Mouncey in ozzy football, 'she' is fucking massive (and completely male).

And Rahsaan Yearwood is so fucking male its unbeliveable! Facial hair! Everything!

If being a camp gay boy was more acceptable to certain communities than being trans, I think we would be seeing a lot less of this.

I agree, Fluffy, I think homophobia is a major part of the issue here when it comes to kids. The 'Gender fluid' 12 year old in the HuffPo article is a good example. Came out as gay, got a bad reaction from parents. Comes to the conclusion he's actually trans, suddenly they are championing his right to infringe on the girls' privacy in changing rooms and bathrooms. They're 100% proud of him and on his side. I can see from his perspective the appeal of being 'trans' instead of gay .