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having dinner with my DC and DD notices smoke coming out of a plug in the wall, I then notice the plug is turning brown very fast, so I turn the sockets off in the fuse box pull the plug out by this time it's in flames !! Any who contain it quickly and no one is hurt thank god so glad we weren't out of sleeping.

I have lived in this property for less than 12 Months and in this time we have had a gas leak and all large electrical items in the kitchen have broken and needed replacing.

I'm not an electric savvy person but surely there is something wrong with the electrics ? Shouldn't the fuse box of tripped if the dam plug was on fire ?

My landlord wants us to wait till he can come out on Sunday to put the sockets back on that's not possible how will I cook etc..

I want to move AIBU am I being a drama queen?

Useless lot. Looks like shelter may be wrong about what rent smart do.

Landlords don't have to have an electrical certificate to rent out property however they or the agents are liable and should ensure the electrics are safe before doing so - used to work in an estate agents. Try and contact your council environmental health as they can serve enforcement notices on landlords if they say work needs doing.

Issue I have spoke to environmental health and they said they could come and inspect immediately after what I told them but they would also have to get LL involved and even though we are now planning to move I don't want to be evicted and only have a week to find somewhere see, so hoping for permission to our own electrician in if they say no I will definitely get involved to do it

Now the EA have been warned of a problem and have done nothing, not even a check, should anything happen in the property their insurance won't cover it. Might be worth reminding the EA that they are now personally liable for potentially life threatening issues. Its not a risk I would ever take.

Have a look at this link as this came in when I was still working at a estate agents:

england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/repairs/revenge_eviction_if_you_ask_for_repairs

Your landlord shouldn't be able to evict you in revenge for wanting repairs and the council have served a enforcement notice.

This is terrible op!

Just to say if the agent is employing the landlord as an electrician, then they must have a copy of his insurance documents to show his liability for carrying out work.

I'm presuming when you shut off the fuse for the socket in question, it's the fuse for the full kitchen? In which case, this is an emergency and should be dealt with within 24 hours as none of the kitchen appliances are able to be used

They said they have his documents I haven't seen them myself.

Yes shut off all down stairs sockets the kitchen is w red to the rest of the house , I know know that's dangerous in its self.

The landlord called and asked for pictures and said it's the plug, not the electrics and that's that no more action required apparently.. so Iv asked we can for our own electrician to come out and do a safety check, not heard back yet

You can ask for a copy of them if any co tractor is to carry out work at the property.
You can also ask an electrician to attend, and then provide a full invoice to the agent/landlord for them to pay, (reimburse whatever you have paid the contractor) as long as the contractor is happy to provide evidence to confirm.
I would also recommend keeping an account of all emails/messages/etc sent to and from the landlord and agent. If the agent is acting as property management for the landlord, in urgent/emergency situations the are usually obligated to send someone within 24 hours but I would check your contract for the relevant clauses

Don't worry about eviction. Even if all the documents were in order - two months notice, court date, possessions, bailiff - takes months.

Losing track of which crap landlord thread is which, but please read the welsh how to rent info so you know your rights.

EPC is energy proformance certificate and it just tells you how energy efficient the property is.

You get an EICR and PAT certificate which only last 5 years. That’s the safety one.

I’m in Scotland which has different rentals laws compared to England too.

This is disgusting. Is it possible for you to speak to someone at the fire brigade. And then tell EA you have done so.

EA and your landlord are utter cunts.

Rent Smart my arse.

Any further forward OP?

I have had text of LL saying estate agents called him and he said he doesn't want us wasting our money on a safety certificate he will do it but that's what I was trying to avoid.. even though it's a nice offer I'm worried he could lie so I haven't replied yet I'm not sure what to do next ! Also wishing I hadn't text him the pictures yesterday because I'm sure all contact is meant to be through EA

contact the fire brigade and ask to speak to the Chief Fire Officer.

Can you take some good photos of your fuse board and post them here? I work in construction, but am not an electrician, but can give you some pointers of anything is obvious to me - incorrect fuses etc.

In the interim, just get an electrician over and don't tell the landlord.

You have every right to contact your landlord, not a problem - even though he is a knob.

The fire brigade may help but I think it is environmental health who may issue an improvement notice. No smoke alarms will also get your landlord fined.

Yes, it's your council's Environmental Health team who will deal with enforcement. They can indeed take action against your landlord.

When an electrical fault caused a fire in my house (in the shower) I called the fire service. They switched off the relevant circuit breaker in the house and the landlord had an electrician in within 2 working days as it was classed as an emergency repair.

Tbh, if you have a crap landlord it is often easier to just move rather than constantly fighting for your rights. There are good landlords out there.

sheltercymru.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Getting-repairs-done.pdf

Shelters advice for getting repairs done as a tenant in Wales.