To not really get Frugi clothes

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Don't get me wrong they have some lovely clothes and nice prints, but they're just so expensive for what they are. I mean £21 for a single babygrow? Loads of my mum friends absolutely rave about them and fork out to dress their children exclusively in Frugi everything. Am I missing something?

I got ds1 & ds2 lovelyfleece lined jumpers in Sale. Within a month the fleece had gone hard and stiff, assumed it was my washing but other friends have had same issues. I miss Seasalt Children’s clothes, they were great.

That’s exactly what my ds8 does ooh he’ll happily get dressed in the dark. This makes choosing his clothes easier as I do tend to go for function over trend and although I do generally to stick to higher priced stuff such as Fatface & Bowden, I do this due to the wearability/durability of the clothes rather than social status.

As I’ve said, my dd4 has more influence over her clothing choice, I’d just prefer her to go for the more practical trousers/leggings for play. But as it is she was seen rising her bike in a full on Elsa princess dress the other day

I have recently discovered kite clothing. It’s a bit like fruigi but not quite as shapeless/ oversized. It’s a Devon based company and the sales are great. They also sell in house of Frazier.

Toby Tiger is cute too.

I got ds1 & ds2 lovelyfleece lined jumpers in Sale. Within a month the fleece had gone hard and stiff, assumed it was my washing

Were they Frugi snugglefleeces? You need to tumbledry on a low heat or brush the fleecy linining with a soft bristle brush after washing (I use a baby hairbrush). Restores all the softness!

They are lovely prints. The price is ridiculous . I'm afraid I'm one of those unethical people when it comes to this sort of thing. My children's wardrobe ranges from crazy expensive down to Primark/tescos because I buy stuff I look the look of.

I don't get the big deal with gender neutral clothing, especially if I'm going to have to pay extra for it! If my DD wants to wear a dress, even a frilly unicorn dress, with glitter how does that in any way oppress her? It's attitudes and behaviours that matter

Sadly, people's attitudes and behaviours ARE influenced by clothes. Female clothing has a long history of oppression. Many girls clothes today are restrictive and decorative, leftover from the days when little girls were expected to sit indoors looking demure and pretty.

The odd frilly unicorn dress won't do any harm. But if most of her wardrobe was glittery and decorative I'd be asking myself 'what message is that sending to her? Do they make her feel capable and strong? Are they warm, practical, hardwearing? Do they encourage her to climb trees, splash in mud, roll down hills? Can she safely ride a bike or climb a ladder without the risk of clothing getting caught?'

Girls are bombarded with adverts from a young age, which tell them to value looking pretty. From Disney princesses to pamper parties, play make-up, dolls with ballgown collections, styling heads etc. Even as women, there's huge media focus on women's appearence.

My DD has a few dresses, mainly summer ones as she likes the airiness of them.

I think gender stereotyping is one of the main reasons there are less women in engineering, medicine, law and other high paid professions.

I love Frugi clothes but their sizing drives me potty. I recently bought four pairs of trousers and several t shirts in their sale. They were all supposed to be the same size but there was a difference of a good 6-8cm in leg length and the waist bands varied a lot too. Ended up having to return several items due to the ridiculous sizing. It’s a shame as the design is gorgeous and they are lovely soft material.

What is the benefit to gender neutral dressing and what harm does it do to put the child in clothing they like and have shown a preference to wear despite the parents efforts to keep them neutral

I encourage DD to pick out styles and patterns she likes, but from brands I approve of. When she's older I'll teach her about ethical choices and the sweatshop industry.

By neutral I don't mean avoiding pink and unicorns. I would let a boy wear those too if he desired. I mean weather appropriate, practical, hard wearing and good value (eg ribbed cuffs and adjustable waists, in fabrics that wear well).

I think gender stereotyping is one of the main reasons there are less women in engineering, medicine, law and other high paid professions.

There are a lot of women in medicine, particularly younger ones trained in the UK. And if nursing, childcare and social care paid as well as "male" professions that demand similar levels of training and responsibility why would it matter that more girls (or boys) chose those careers? Promoting only STEM careers is going to leave a massive hole in caring professions, especially after Brexit. Of course that's a completely different issue to that of clothing.

Flimsy crap clothing and footwear is useless, but not necessarily a feminist issue IMO. My son's Spiderman catsuit is just as shit as DD's Elsa dress.

I love frugi clothes, found they washed and lasted really nicely. Now DD (4) is very petite with narrow shoulders and hips the clothes completely swamp her so haven’t bought her any in a while.

Agreed, my kids are quite tall and while DD7 is muscular and can fill clothes, DS5 is super duper skinny and Frugi drowns him, even with waist adjusters.

I think gender stereotyping is one of the main reasons there are less women in engineering, medicine, law and other high paid professions

WTAF

At my last law firm the lawyers were 70% female.

Absolute rubbish.

70% of the lawyers were female I mean.

So, from your law firm, you're saying women are at least 50% represented across all high paid professions, board rooms, CEO level, parliament...?

Love a bit of frugi, but never, ever at full price. Or even anywhere near it! Usually second hand. Or third hand.

My children are usually in a complete mix of Sainsbury's, Tesco, frugi, max, piccalilli, H&M, John Lewis, M&S. The supermarkets are the only place I tend to buy at full price, and even then I prefer Sainsbury's 25% off!

(I also breastfed my son, who has long hair, until he was 3. And also carried him in a sling on my back. And joined the NCT. And volunteer with the bfn. And have solar panels. Ooooo get me! But I do love a bit of bacon! )

Does anyone actually buy the stuff at full price?! This thread seems to be full of people who buy it second hand or in the sale!
I quite like frugi but find some of the stuff a bit too 'vomited a rainbow'.
I try and buy mostly second hand but while I can quite easily find stuff for dd in charity shops it has been harder with ds. Seems to be so much green or brown which I don't like. I like blue (for dd and ds) but was a bit annoying to realise nearly all his first clothes were pale blue.....
If I buy new I try and buy from ethical companies like frugi.

Also frugi baby clothes often do last well and fit for longer than other brands in my experience. However they do often come up huge. My very tall but skinny 2.5 dd is still wearing a 12-18 months top from there and ds who wears 9-12 months in most brands is still wearing frugi 3-6 month bodies.

Still waiting for NewYearNiki to come and elucidate on which equal opportunities planet she's living on.

I have bought some things from them but I have more or less stopped because the last few things have been nice looking but very thin material for what you buy plus they fade quick and don't always hold their shape when washed( twisted waist bands and such)
It seems to be that organic clothes are all very thin ( maybe they keep them thin because they want you to buy more to make a profit? I really don't know) plus organic companies don't tell you that it actually takes more water to grow organic cotton than cotton grown with chemicals.

It pretty much holds its value to sell on, so if you have the initial outlay you can fund the next size by selling the smaller lot.

This discussions seems to be more about people making a statement about what you can afford. These clothes are absolutely not great quality. I buy organic clothes from The Simple Folk that are amazing quality. Frugi are thin cheap material from my experience.